Politics: USAToday Poll On 2nd Amendment

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:36 am

Vote Today on USA Today For the Right To Bear Arms

Pass on to those who believe the 2nd Amendment means that individuals have the right to bear arms.

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Vote Today on USA Today For the Right To Bear Arms

Hi All,
Please vote this gun issue question with USA Today. It will only take a few seconds of your time. Then pass the link on to all the pro gun folks you know. Hopefully these results will be published later this month. This upcoming year will become critical for gun owners with the Supreme Court accepting the District of Columbia case against the right for individuals to bear arms

First - vote on this one.
Second - launch it to all the pro-gun folks and have THEM vote - then we will see if the results get published.

To vote in the USA Today poll, click on the link below.
Does the Second Amendment give individuals the right to bear arms?

Vote here: http://www.usatoday.com/news/quickquest ... up5895.htm

cutter · Post by **cutter** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:45 am

It reads like a trick question.

The Second Ammendment doesn't 'give' us anything, it only affirms like what we already have.

I'm afraid too vote. How will this be spun?

Advice?? Should I go ahead and vote anyway?

tatume · Post by **tatume** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:52 am

Does the Second Amendment give individuals the right to bear arms?

Everyone here should be aware that the correct answer is "no." The Second Amendment does not give a right, it instructs the government not to infringe upon the right.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:54 am

Cutter, you are right. Their wording is wrong. However I voted yes anyway only because it's not the answer they want. So did 97% of those voting.

Joe

Post by **AmBraCol** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:56 am

tatume wrote:
Does the Second Amendment give individuals the right to bear arms?
Everyone here should be aware that the correct answer is "no." The Second Amendment does not give a right, it instructs the government not to infringe upon the right.

The poll doesn't open on my machine, probably due to pop up blocker or ??? at any rate, I'm going to take a guess and say that although the CORRECT answer is "No" since the Bill of Rights bestows nothing, rather it merely recognizes pre-existing rights, yet for the purpose of the poll, in all likelihood the "right" answer would be "Yes" since they want to know if you think an individual has the right to possess, carry, transport and utilize firearms - or whether you think that the Second Amendment to the US Constitution provides only for some kind of "State Militia" to utilize firearms.

The person who put up the poll probably does NOT have an inkling about the bigger issues and so is probably phrasing the poll according to their limited understanding of the issue of rights and where they come from.

Texican · Post by **Texican** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:09 am

I'd just like to know who would take the time to answer an internet poll with 'undecided'.

How does that thought process work?

cutter · Post by **cutter** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:19 am

I'm not answering. I'll write a letter to the editor, which is what we should all do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOgO-EiDh3w

CAUTION LANGUAGE

It's a long video, but watch closely.

otteray · Post by **otteray** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:26 am

It is a poorly phrased question.
But in this case, the second amendment rights activist's correct answer would be "yes;" whether you believe the right exists either from God, or through government.

Mojo · Post by **Mojo** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:29 am

Okay, here is another spin. I think the key word in the question is "individuals" not "give" since the the Supreme Court has decided to interpret the meaning of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" as being either individual ownership or those serving in a "well regulated militia". Remember, they are going to determine exactly who "the people" are as referred to in the 2nd Amendment.

cutter · Post by **cutter** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:36 am

If the 2nd Amendment 'gives' us the right, then a new amendment can take it away.

How is this ," A recent poll show most americans believe the second ammendment can be repealed."

Scott64A · Post by **Scott64A** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:49 am

blah blah blah...

97% say that it is pertaining to an individual's right to keep and bear arms.

Fine.

I voted yes.

Not that polls mean anything, and I lovwe Penn and Teller's BS.
A great show.

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:21 pm

Done! Thanks Griff.

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:07 pm

I just voted and the results were 97% "Yes".

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:14 pm

Is this the one that was posted a bit ago? I must have already voted, as it would let me look at the results but not cast another vote.

I remember the first one - pinched my nose and voted "yes". As noted, the Second Amendment doesn't give us any rights - it simply acknowledges the right we were born with and restricts the government from infringing on it (which they ignore all the time). However, since the question was aimed more at the upcoming DC case going before the SCOTUS, and concerned the "individual rights" versus "collective rights" debate, I of course weighed in properly - along with every other right "of the people" outlined in the "Bill of Rights" - with the individual!

JReed · Post by **JReed** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:12 pm

I couldnt vote either only could see the results.

cutter · Post by **cutter** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:39 pm

That's weird...

I voted three times.

Hmm...

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:22 pm

cutter wrote:That's weird...

I voted three times.

Hmm...

SSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! Act natural.

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