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STEVENS 425 HIGH POWER

#1 Post by vintageautomobilia » Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:01 pm

On this site and others, the Stevens 425 High Power lever gun is listed with a production of 26,000. I believe this is incorrect. I think the correct figure is only about 5,000. I have researched this gun and no one seems to have seen a serial number on a Stevens High Power higher than 5000. I own one and have seen several others and their serial numbers are all lower than 5000. I think the High Power was numbered with one of the Crackshot models, hence the 26,000 number.

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Re: STEVENS 425 HIGH POWER

#2 Post by coyote nose » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:12 pm

But they also made them in fancier versions correct? The 435, 445, etc. maybe each had its own serial range and that is how they get the 26000 number (add them all up). About 2 years ago saw one of these go for around 125$ on gunbroker...it was a penny auction and I forgot to check up on it. It was in nice shape...i would have definitely bid on it, but remembered to check just after it ended and could not believe the low price it went for. I think it was in 25 cal. What is you 425 in? How is it? I am on the lookout for these at gunshows but of course, want one at a bargain price (and in 35 cal).
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Re: STEVENS 425 HIGH POWER

#3 Post by vintageautomobilia » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:33 pm

Yes, they made fancier versions, but all the versions of the High Power (the 425, 435, etc.) seem to share the same serial number range and VERY few of the fancier guns were made -probably not more than a handful of each. Mine is #48xx and is in .32 Remington - a good calibre for a great gun. $125 for a nice Stevens High Power was a real bargain!

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Re: STEVENS 425 HIGH POWER

#4 Post by marlinman93 » Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:23 pm

I sold one earlier this year that was in .30 Rem., but I don't think I recorded the serial number in my records, as I had it such a short time.
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Re: STEVENS 425 HIGH POWER

#5 Post by vintageautomobilia » Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:27 pm

If anyone has a Stevens High Power lever gun would you please post the serial number in this forum? A photo of the serial number would be great also! The number is located on the lower tang under the lever. Thanks!

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#6 Post by peter richards » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:41 am

My Stevens 425 High Power is in 32 remington. The serial number is 34xx, I have not been able to source ammo here in australia, but I have ordered dies and brass from Buffalo Arms, can't wait to see how it shoots.
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Re: STEVENS 425 HIGH POWER

#7 Post by vintageautomobilia » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:01 pm

Thanks for the serial number info on your Stevens High Power Pete! That's the same caliber as mine and it should shoot great. I imagine since the gun is rare in the US, it must be really rare in Australia. I thought Buffalo Arms had loaded ammo in .32 Rem - I got .35 WSL from them for my Winchester Model 1905. Maybe shipping loaded ammo to Australia is a problem?

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Re: STEVENS 425 HIGH POWER

#8 Post by vintageautomobilia » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:05 pm

Hi,

I am still looking for serial number information on the Stevens High Power lever gun. If anyone has a Stevens High Power would you please list your serial number on this forum?

I believe there were no more than 5000 High Powers made, and the figure normally quoted as 26,000 is a mistake and includes other Stevens rifles.

Thanks!

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Re: STEVENS 425 HIGH POWER

#9 Post by vintageautomobilia » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:07 pm

Here is another known serial number for a Stevens High Power. It is 40xx and the owner says it's really accurate despite a slightly frosty bore. Any other Stevens High Power owners out there?

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Re: STEVENS 425 HIGH POWER

#10 Post by lozen » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:24 pm

Hi, I'm sure that 26,000 figure is a mistake. I've got a 32 rem. ser# 2628

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Re: STEVENS 425 HIGH POWER

#11 Post by lozen » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:31 pm

You should post this question on the Savage forum over at the 24hr campfire. I think Loggah's got 3 or 4 , I'm sure some of the others will too.

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#12 Post by vintageautomobilia » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:28 pm

I tried to go to 24hrcampfire and did not find the Savage Forum. Do you have the info on this web site?

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#13 Post by vintageautomobilia » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:30 pm

lozen wrote:Hi, I'm sure that 26,000 figure is a mistake. I've got a 32 rem. ser# 2628
Thanks for your serial number info! I agree that this rifle is a lot rarer than most people know.

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#14 Post by TNBigBore » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:56 pm

I completely agree that they are more rare than people think. I come across all kinds of rare and unusual leverguns and have never seen even one Stevens High Power at a gun shop or gun show, only online. They are rare, trust me.

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#15 Post by vintageautomobilia » Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:28 pm

Here are some of the Stevens High Power serial numbers I've found:

2628
34xx
4011
40xx
4837 (mine)

Again, none over 5000. Are there any other Stevens High Powers out there?

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#16 Post by vintageautomobilia » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:43 pm

Here are some further known serial numbers for the Stevens 425 High Power lever gun:

2514
2628
2838
3056
34xx
3856
4011
40xx
4290
4837
5201

So we do have one gun with a serial number over 5000, but 10 guns under 5000. Also interesting is that, so far, we have no gun listed with a serial number under 2500. It has been suggested that the High Power was serialized with the Stevens Crackshot, so maybe the High Power serial numbers didn't actually start at 1. Hey, this is sort of like "how many angels fit on the head of a pin".

Keep those serial numbers coming! We may solve this yet.

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#17 Post by vintageautomobilia » Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:36 pm

Here's the new list of known serial numbers for the Stevens 425 High Power:

1050
1737
1842
1977
2514
2628
2838
3056
34xx
3856
4011
40xx
4290
4343
4837
5201
5302

In the Marlin Firearms book by Brophy, he claims "That only about 1,000 were manufactured up to 1917." Who's right??

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#18 Post by vintageautomobilia » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:17 pm

Just heard from a Stevens High Power owner in New Zealand. Their serial number is 1805. We now know of a total of only 18 425 High Power rifles.

Any more out there?

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#19 Post by vintageautomobilia » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:22 pm

Hi,

Identified another Stevens High Power lever gun. It is serial number 4073, so we now have 19 guns on our list.

Does anyone know of any more Stevens 425 High Power rifles? We need as many serial numbers as possible.

Please help.

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#20 Post by vintageautomobilia » Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:04 pm

peter richards wrote:My Stevens 425 High Power is in 32 remington. The serial number is 34xx, I have not been able to source ammo here in australia, but I have ordered dies and brass from Buffalo Arms, can't wait to see how it shoots.
Peter,

Would you please give me the complete 4-digit serial number of your Stevens High Power (34xx). I am compiling a list of all known High Power rifles and so far I have 22 listed.

I also need to get the complete number and caliber from the person who listed 40xx.

Thanks!!

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Re: STEVENS 425 HIGH POWER

#21 Post by vintageautomobilia » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:30 pm

Hey,

Are there no more Stevens 425 High Power lever guns out there??? We've found only twenty-two guns so far. Are they that rare???

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#22 Post by vintageautomobilia » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:42 pm

So far, there are only 24 known Stevens 425 High Power lever guns on the list. The lowest serial number known is #1050 (.35 Rem) and the highest known is #5594 (.32 Rem). There's got to be more than 24 of these guns out there! (Most of the replies to my questions have come on the Savage Collectors' Forum on 24hourcampfire.com. Check it out!)

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#23 Post by vintageautomobilia » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:24 pm

Hi,

Found four more Stevens 425 High Power lever guns: #3527 in .35 Rem, #3684 in .35 Rem, #3788 in .30 Rem (also sometimes called .30-30 Rem), and #4490 in .30 Rem.

Our Stevens 425 list now has 29 guns on it. Any more out there????

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Re: STEVENS 425 HIGH POWER

#24 Post by Phineas » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:35 am

Add serial #4677 to the list. It is a Model 425 in 35 Remington. I need a cartridge carrier for it. Does anybody know who may have parts available for these rifles? I would appreciate any info. This gun has been in our family for a very long time.

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#25 Post by Phineas » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:48 pm

Phineas wrote:Add serial #4677 to the list. It is a Model 425 in 35 Remington. I need a cartridge carrier for it. Does anybody know who may have parts available for these rifles? I would appreciate any info. This gun has been in our family for a very long time.
Correction: It's serial #1477, all other info is correct, and yes I'm still in need of the cartridge carrier.

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#26 Post by vintageautomobilia » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:20 pm

From what I've been told, the cartridge carrier for the early Stevens 425 is different than one on a later gun. Sorry, I know that doesn't help much. Try posting on the Savage Collectors Forum on 24hourcampfire.com and go to the Stevens 425 High Power thread.

I got lucky and just purchased my second Stevens 425 High Power. It is # 1766 in .32 Rem. That brings the number of known guns to 39.

If anyone has an idea about how to reach Stevens 425 owners who don't have a computer, I'm all ears!

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#27 Post by afish4570 » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:38 pm

Huntington in Calif. has 30 Rem brass (usually) You might get 100 rds and run them through a 32 Spec. die and get her shooting. Never did it but done similar stuff and it should be an easy source of brass. afish4570 :roll: :roll:
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#28 Post by vintageautomobilia » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:37 pm

Thanks afish4570,

Buffalo Arms also has .32 Rem reloading stuff, as well as loaded ammo.

Another 425 High Power has surfaced - it is number 2462 in .30 Rem (AKA 30-30 Rem). We now have 40 guns on our list - all with 4-digit serial numbers. The lowest number is still 1050, and the highest number is still 5594.

We need more numbers!

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#29 Post by vintageautomobilia » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:39 pm

Two more Stevens 425 High Power lever guns: #3804 in .30 Rem and #4594 in .30 Rem.

We also now have one Model 435 High Power (the checkered and engraved version) #4940 in .32 Rem.

The total so far: 41 guns

Still looking!

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#30 Post by arjunky » Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:25 pm

Leroy Mertz has one listed. I didn't read all your posts to see if it's one you have listed. No serial # mentioned.
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#31 Post by vintageautomobilia » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:12 pm

No, I don't have Leroy Mertz's gun on my list. Does anyone know Mr. Mertz or know the serial number?

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#32 Post by vintageautomobilia » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:40 pm

I just received my second Stevens 425 High Power lever gun, it's #1766 in .32 Rem, and it's in really nice condition. The rear sight is a little unusual (not like my other High Power or the photos I've seen) but I think I can live with it if the gun shoots straight. I'll post a photo when my gun comes out of the FORCED 10-day quarantine here in California - another stupid law, thanks to our gun-hating Democrats. Ann Coulter said of Nancy Pelosi (a product of California's Democrat Party): Only in America can a woman who's mentally retarded become Speaker of the US House!

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#33 Post by vintageautomobilia » Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:44 pm

Hi, can anyone tell me why the Stevens 425 High Power was designed and manufactured only in Remington calibers?

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#34 Post by Phineas » Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:37 pm

Good question about the Remington-only chamberings. Perhaps they were trying to be distinct from the many different Winchester chamberings.

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#35 Post by vintageautomobilia » Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:22 pm

GUN DIGEST THE MAGAZINE printed my request for owners of Stevens 425 High Power rifles to contact me with their serial numbers and calibers. We are getting responses and now have 53 of these scarce guns on our list. The low number is still 1050 in .35 Rem and the high number is still 5594 in .32 Rem.

If you have a Stevens High Power or know someone who does, please post the number and caliber here or email me at: vintageautomobilia@thegrid.net

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#36 Post by vintageautomobilia » Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:07 pm

Got a few more responses from my letter published in GunDigest - The Magazine. We now have just 57 guns listed - still with no consecutive serial numbers and with no change in the lowest or highest serial number.

GunDigest is going to publish a new letter from me in their upcoming NRA issue. This letter will include my street address as well as my email address. Hopefully this will get responses from Stevens 425 High Power owners who don't use a computer.

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#37 Post by peter richards » Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:06 am

Looks like there is a few of us out there, my Hi - Powers full serial number is 3442, 32 remington. I got my brass from buffalo arms, cast some boolits in an original winchester 32 - 40 mould and it shoots great.

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#38 Post by brokentines » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:24 pm

I have a Stevens high power 425 in 35 cal. with a serial # of 2086

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#39 Post by SJPrice » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:38 pm

for us poor uneducated masses, HOW ABOUT A FEW PICTURES!!! :D
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#41 Post by vintageautomobilia » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:54 pm

I apologize for not posting an update here in quite a while. We now have 133 of these scarce rifles on our list. All have 4-digit serial numbers with NO letter prefix or suffix. The highest number is still 5594 (in .32 Rem) and the lowest number is now 1021 which is stamped on the lever, not on the tang (caliber is .35 Rem). The number of guns in each serial number group has remained remarkably stable: 32 guns in the 1,000 - 1999 group, 29 guns in 2,000 - 2999,
31 guns in 3,000 -3999, 27 guns in 4,000 - 4999, and still only 14 guns with serial numbers over 5,000 (5594 has been the highest known number for a long time now).

Caliber breakdown as remained remarkably stable also (calibers on 3 guns are unlisted):

.25 Rem = 17 guns
.30 Rem = 50 guns
.32 Rem = 18 guns
.35 Rem = 44 guns

Obviously, the .30 (or 30-30) was the most popular caliber, closely followed by .35 Rem. The scarcest guns are in .32 Rem and .25 Rem. It is interesting to note that of the only 14 guns with serial numbers 5000 and higher, 12 are in .30 Rem.

I started this topic quite a while ago now, but I think I've proven that there couldn't possibly have been 26,000 Stevens 425 High Power rifles manufactured. And that The Blue Book, and all the other price guides that quote this figure, are completely WRONG. From my research, when Brophy wrote in his Marlin book that only about 1000 Stevens 425 High Power rifles were manufactured, he was absolutely CORRECT.

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#42 Post by earlmck » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:19 am

I can't believe it. Starting page 3 of an interesting thread and not a single picture :shock: .
Sorry, no data to contribute: I'd never even heard of a Stevens high power.
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#43 Post by vintageautomobilia » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:40 pm

earlmck wrote:I can't believe it. Starting page 3 of an interesting thread and not a single picture :shock: .
Sorry, no data to contribute: I'd never even heard of a Stevens high power.
OK, here are photos of the gun and the action.

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#44 Post by vintageautomobilia » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:01 pm

Last night I spoke with Bill Goodman of Goodman's Guns in Montana. He has an early Stevens 425 High Power, serial number 1030 in .35 Rem. It is listed for sale on his web site. He also gave me the serial numbers of two guns he had previously sold. These were #3934 in .30 Rem and #3760 in .35 Rem. Thanks, Bill!

What's interesting about these early Stevens 425's is that evidently Stevens was undecided about where to put the serial numbers on the gun. On #1021 the serial number is on the lever, and on #1030, the serial number is on the side of both the upper and lower tangs - under the wood of the buttstock. By #1050, the serial number had moved again to its final resting place, on the face of the lower tang under the lever.

So, we now have a total of 136 guns on our list.

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#45 Post by earlmck » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:19 pm

Thanks Peter: that's quite a nice looking rifle. Hard to believe they didn't sell bunches of those back in the day. I'd like to think I would have bought one in 25 Remington if I'd been in the rifle-shopping business in 1910. And Goodman's rifle in 35 Rem. at $1150 doesn't sound too bad for a decent specimen of such an obviously rare rifle...
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#46 Post by airedaleman » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:45 pm

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Thank you for all the information about these rifles. I have a question. (I've only seen one - nearly fifty years ago - in the collection of an old fellow in Waterbury, Connecticut, and I didn't get a chance to handle it.) Does the bolt cock the hammer, or is there a link to the lever? Looking at the dropping bolt made me wonder about this.
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#47 Post by Molasses » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:46 am

airedaleman wrote:Peter,
Thank you for all the information about these rifles. I have a question. (I've only seen one - nearly fifty years ago - in the collection of an old fellow in Waterbury, Connecticut, and I didn't get a chance to handle it.) Does the bolt cock the hammer, or is there a link to the lever? Looking at the dropping bolt made me wonder about this.
Near as I've been able to figure, looking into the innards (could be I'm all wet, but this is what I decided it looks like happens): The portion of the hammer that you don't normally see from the outside has a long underslung stretch going forwards, kinda like a letter "C" that's stretched out triple the normal length on the bottom. The bolt is forked at the rear and straddles the hammer at the farthest it makes it backwards, while the crotch of the fork rides that long, sloping hammer surface, starting to cock it as it drops down and starts coming back then bringing it to full cock as it gets all the way back into the hollow of the "C". Hope the pictures help make a little sense. Oh, that hook-shaped piece on the right is the actuating part of the lifter/carrier.
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#48 Post by airedaleman » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:55 pm

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airedaleman wrote:Peter,
Thank you for all the information about these rifles. I have a question. (I've only seen one - nearly fifty years ago - in the collection of an old fellow in Waterbury, Connecticut, and I didn't get a chance to handle it.) Does the bolt cock the hammer, or is there a link to the lever? Looking at the dropping bolt made me wonder about this.
Near as I've been able to figure, looking into the innards (could be I'm all wet, but this is what I decided it looks like happens): The portion of the hammer that you don't normally see from the outside has a long underslung stretch going forwards, kinda like a letter "C" that's stretched out triple the normal length on the bottom. The bolt is forked at the rear and straddles the hammer at the farthest it makes it backwards, while the crotch of the fork rides that long, sloping hammer surface, starting to cock it as it drops down and starts coming back then bringing it to full cock as it gets all the way back into the hollow of the "C". Hope the pictures help make a little sense. Oh, that hook-shaped piece on the right is the actuating part of the lifter/carrier.
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Thank you again! Your rundown, along with the pix, makes perfect sense. It would really be great to learn the full story behind these firearms...
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Re: STEVENS 425 HIGH POWER

#49 Post by vintageautomobilia » Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:00 pm

An update:

We have now found 153 of these scarce rifles. The higest and lowest serial numbers remain the same at 5594 and 1021. The serial number ranges and the calibers remain fairly constant, indicating in my opinion that we are getting a fairly accurate cross section of the rifle's production:

SERIAL # RANGE
1021-1999= 35 rifles
2000-2999= 32
3000-3999= 35
4000-4999= 32
5000-5594= 19

CALIBERS*
.25 Rem= 18
.32 Rem= 18
.30 Rem= 59
.35 Rem= 51
*Two unknown calibers

More serial numbers and calibers please!

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Re: STEVENS 425 HIGH POWER

#50 Post by cab32 » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:54 pm

Just returned from a show where I bought a beat up Stevens High Power 425 parts gun . Have never seen one before so I googled and found this thread.
It is marked 30-30 Rem and the serial is 3996 marked on the lower tang under the lever.
Hope this info is helpful. my understanding is that this is the rimless 30 Rem cartridge. Is that correct?
CAB

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