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piller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:24 am I took a video of someone keying a vehixle one tome and sent it to the police in that city. No idea what happened after that.

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Some of you seemed to miss the point of this wildcat. This was not to rechamber a 94 30-30 to 348 Winchester cartridge, it was to take the 30-30 case and open it up to accept .348 bullets. Then ream/rifle the barrel to accept this bullet diameter. Sounds neat to me! I have played around with project...

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One of the links could also be a link from an 1866, replaced years ago. They are close to 1873 dimensions but not quite on. As far as a replacement, eBay is your friend here. I have bought a few sets off of the bay when rebuilding 1873s several years ago.

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Interesting fact. In 1965 100% of the integrated circuits produced in the world went to project Apollo. Before that they were mostly used in the Polaris missile project and in various research computers.

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Well...not a 62 but its Grandfather the 1890 . Here is a beat up 1890 frame I rescued, worked on, and sent to Turnbull for the case colors.

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Thank you Sixgun....your .176" thread diameter is only 0.001" less than what a sharp #9 thread would mic, I would expect a #9 thread to mic about 0.003" or 0.004" less and thus measure 0.173 to 0.174 or so when new, but a 3/16 to mic 0.184 or so. It is definitely closer to size 9...

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Ok I have a question about the thread size for the original rods. Pirkle say 3/16X32 (ie 0.187"X32), internet says #9X32 (ie 0.177"X32). The internet says mic the diameter and if its close to 0.190 its fake, if close to 0.175 its real. Yet if Pirkle is right, and I suspect he is, the inter...

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There could be another reason no numbers are above the 5XXX range. Stevens may have just reused numbers ie: started back at number 1 once 5XXX was reached. They did this with their Stevens Favorite single shot of which they made a LOT, I come across 2 or 3 digit Favorites guns all the time. I even o...

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Oh my and I have that book!!! Somewhere. Forgot all about it. Thank you.
I cant really soak it in oil as the wood forend is attached...but perhaps I can reach in and put a few drops in from the ejection port.
Thanks again.

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Cant find anything here using the search function. 1. Is the magazine tube on the 71 threaded into the receiver like the late Model 1886 Winchester tubes were? Having a tough time getting mine out and am afraid to start the rather severe twisting motion that may be necessary. If so I'll turn a brass...

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BlaineG wrote: ↑Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:06 pm Cherish your 40s...you ain't seen or felt nothin' yet.....

Well said. My 40s were FANTASTIC. The problems started at 50. 58 now, still blessed but boy am I slowing down.

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Okay thanks guys! Just love the 33 WCF! I cut my own chamber on my rifle to just about minimum headspace, and did set up the sizing die years ago as you suggested sixgun, slowly adjusting the sizing die until the case just entered the chamber. What this does is basically headspaces it on the slope o...

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Hello all. I'm still disassembling old 33 WCF ammo, annealing the case, reprimimg with a new primer, then if all components appear okay reassembling and doing accuracy/velocity tests. Recently got a "USC Co" headstamped case and after deprimimg noticed the primer size was 0.225" inste...

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The toggles in the Winchesters I am almost sure actually come to rest a little OVER top dead center. That is, they come into alignment and then go a little past the alignment when the lever is fully closed. They are restrained from further movement past TDC by the machined cutouts in the top of the ...

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Geronimo was NOT the last to surrender. Ishi surrendered in california in 1911, fully expecting to be killed by the whites, since he had shot at whites early on during his 44 years of hiding. And some never surrendered, several Apache had not surrendered with Geronimo, and stayed in Mexico, fully &q...

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Old Coyote' Nose here carries a Buck 110 folding Hunter while disappearing in the Wind River Mountains or the Beartooth Mts for awhile..... given to him by his Dad back in the snowy winter of 1979

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Trying to get to the bottom of this because I want to know too! Its kind of hard to figure out what Pirkle and also Madis mean, but by carefully reading the 2 books I have on it.....after about serial 113000 only shorter than "standard" 44 caliber guns (24" was standard on rifle and 2...

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Made it home and was able to post this.
Top to bottom: 44-40, 44-40, 38-40 with stepped receiver, and another 44-40

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Im not at my house for awhile (taking care of my 93 year old Mother). But your receiver is not stepped. Look on gunbroker at any 32-20 or 38-40 1873 and look closely at the top of receiver right where the barrel joins up, between the ejection port and the front of the receiver. On those calibers and...

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Ok according to Pirkle the stepped receiver (what I called flared) on the 44 WCFs were found from serials 105000/113000 to the end of production. I guess before that they were not stepped.

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3rd model. Also, I believe it is a rifle frame and not a carbine frame. I think all 1873 carbines had a reduced 'flare' where the barrel meets the receiver, even the 44-40s. On a rifle, the flare was only on the 32 and 38 calibers, but on the carbine it was all 3 calibers. These rifles rebuilt into ...

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Dont reset the clock and see if it is 2 hours off the next day

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Thanks for the kind words everybody. I have to sheepishly admit I am quite proud of the gun. While there are a few, there are not many people in my circle of friends that appreciate walnut and steel instead of plastic, so I really liked sharing it here with fellow aficionados. It had been a goal of ...

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Thanks again everybody. I got more measurements and also found a book I completely forgot I had: Donnelly, Cartridge Conversions. I cant find dimensions for .303-35 but will list my 303 British dimensions. Here will be data for my cartridge, then 9X57R, then .358 JDJ, then 303 british: Rim Dia: 0.52...

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Thanks all. Its not in Cartridges of the World, I'll look into the possibilities you guys mentioned. The headstamp of the case is 35 WCF

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Found the link. Hope it works.
https://www.levergunscommunity.org/view ... =1&t=34275

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Yes the fouling was worse in person. There were actually a few 'blobs' of tin near the muzzle end (you can see a small one on the crown in the photo). I rebuilt this from a beat and very inaccurate 33 lightweight. Wrote it up here a few years ago. I'll try to find the link. Did most of the work myse...

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I like experimenting around with vintage guns and accessories. At a gun show a few years ago I came across an unopened can of old DuPont #17 1/2 powder. Opened it and it appeared via sight (no orange dust), feel (not oily), and smell (not rancid) to be undeteriorated. Read up on this powder and lear...

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35wcf.JPG The tall round is a standard 35 WCF that was typical for the 95 Winchester. The shorter round is a 35 WCF case but besides being shorter it also seems to have a sharper shoulder. Bullet is still the 35 WCF bullet. Any idea as to what this obvious wildcat is called? Picked it up for 50 cen...

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Rihmfire indeed I do! I also know what I have to shell out to obtain a box of those!!! Twobit I certainly will add the 1892 to your survey, as it is a low digit serial under 2000. However.....here is a condensed story about it. Dad bought it in 1944 in a barbershop in Las Vegas New Mexico for $20 wh...

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Yep, no cure. Fortunately! The 1876 is a Chaparral, the rest are Winchesters.

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Hope you enjoy the photos, this is basically whats left after thinning out a few at gun shows. The 1892 and 94 are Dads.

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Thank you guys!!! I just saw this today Jan 2. My beloved 92 year old mother fell and broke her hip the day before my birthday and had surgery the day of my birthday. Not out of the woods yet but due to be released from the hospital to rehab tomorrow. I finally got some sleep last night and checked ...

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Well that discussion is sure settled. Well, its my post so I guess I better chime in, and chime in with a story as to WHY I asked. I hope you will bear with me as I branch off to a separate topic for awhile. For my entire gun reading life Ive read about how the crown of a barrel is so important to ...

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Thanks Pete. My loads, as mentioned above, are incredibly mild and NOT rip snorting. Rip snorting is NOT what I want. I used data for the weak trapdoor rifle for my use in a Model 1886. I am in no way trying to hot rod the old gal! My question is, does jacketed bullets in those old barrels wear the ...

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This may have been rehashed to death here but a quick search found nothing regarding my question. Has there been any scientific tests as to whether firing jacketed bullets IN OLD BARRELS (ie: 1800s Winchester barrels) cause significantly more wear than lead bullets? I keep hearing that old barrels a...

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Wow, after the welcoming you got here I had to log in to say this: Welcome to the forum, there are actually a LOT of nice lever gun aficionados here, please dont judge us by the words of a few. (I often wish forums like this would completely get rid of the post count....what does number of posts hav...

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For fun, a savage-stevens favorite. For scoped rifle accuracy, a Remington Model 510.

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I use a kookie cutter for all pan lubing but even so have occasionally had the same problem with various lubes. Turns out it happens when I let the bullets in the pan cool too long. Next time try cutting them out when the bullets are still very slightly warm. Seems to keep the lube a bit softer and ...

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I'm just grateful that 144 years after Winchester came out with that round they are still loading for it! Now if only a limited run of 44 Henry rimfire....... And if the boys at remington would do a run of my other favorite rimfire, 5mm!

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Does anybody know what the bore diameter and groove diameter for the original 1866 Winchester was? I cant find anything online about it.

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Thanks malamute, can the extractor pin be accessed without getting the bolt out? On the 1873 I drive out the front toggle pin, remove the firing pin extractor, and the firing pin slides out the back (the extractor pin does not hold it in, the retractor does). Then the bolt can be taken out. Very eas...

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Well, I'm retired now, as of last July. Thought things would slow down but frankly I am busier now than I have ever been. Thus the projects I have been 'saving' for spare time just need to be put on the front burner! The first will be fixing up an original 1866 Carbine. Nothing too drastic (just mak...

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Coyote Nose,
I have your old 1862 Colt Police!!!!! I liked it so much I wore the bluing off.

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I love my levers, I love my SAAs, but Colt percussions.......Sixgun, that one is just SWEET!!!

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Amazingly, for all that have crossed my hands, I only regret letting go of one. A third generation Colt 1862 Pocket Police that had the deepest bluing I have ever seen, like looking into a pool of ink, and the nicest case colors I have ever seen.

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Stick powders meter well in my Lee powder thrower. There is a polymer soft 'wipe' inside the Lee unit that stops the 'crunching' associated with other powder throwers. I have 2 lyman, a lee and a RCBS thrower. The lee is used almost exclusively now.

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Thanks for the photo. Based on the scale, cartridge # 2 and 3 are 44 Henry (about 0.84" long case). Perhaps #4 and 5 are 44 long rimfires? Id like to know the case length of the 44 rimfire but cant find it anywhere

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So...I have a cartridge question good old Cartridges of the World cannot answer. What is the difference between 44 Henry, 44 Long Rimfire, and 44 Evans Short rimfire? COTW does not give dimensions of any of these rounds but online chatter indicates they may all be the same. I measured my 44 Henry ca...

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proofhouse.com shows it being made until 1958

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Whats the deal with my 1955 Winchester catalog? It has the Model 88 and the model 94, as well as the model 70, but no mention of the Model 71. I thought the 71 was made until 1958? So I get out my 1954 Winchester price list and the 71 is not listed there either! Anybody know? I have the 1958 catalog...

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