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mickbr

Youre basically shooting stout-ish cowboy action loads and those guys mostly use the fastest pistol and shotguns powders. Loads with any of the following like Clays, Bullseye, WST, Trailboss, Red Dot and win-231 are all going to get you there more or less the same way. As some of the folks above su...

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Needs a better perimeter and visibility. Porous property by the looks with foliage obscuring views of dead ground- looks like they emerged from a gully or lower level behind the entry point. Puts way too much pressure on reaction time. I'd be erecting a fence and making some landscaping changes or m...

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Youre basically shooting stout-ish cowboy action loads and those guys mostly use the fastest pistol and shotguns powders. Loads with any of the following like Clays, Bullseye, WST, Trailboss, Red Dot and win-231 are all going to get you there more or less the same way. As some of the folks above sug...

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great peice of history there Bill.

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The squabble between 2 ex soviet dumps, neither even a top 10 economy and its effect world economy, supply, price of living is IMHO a work even Vince Macmahon from the WWE would be proud of. What I see happening is a range of excuses money is leaving the worlds middle class at an astonishing rate an...

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Thanks fellas, a forum needs a good redneck project every once in a while. All I need now is some personal engraving on the stock and to give the gun a name- just kidding. :) I took it out for a shoot yesterday. So the 200xtp Hornady factory load at 100 yards grouped around 2", best group I hav...

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thanks Scott. It looks funny yep but having a 6'8" wingspan this about the most comfortable I have felt behind a small lever action. Easier to fast work the lever SSAA style. I'm testing 200 xtp at about 1300fps which is about my limit for staying on target so far. Or 1250 with 240's. I reckon ...

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Vortex crossfire 2-7x scope scout installed. To date, osram flashlight with remote tail switch Custom rail Custom true bubba level stock spacer and buttpad Its good for you learned folks to see the lower end of what can be done with a cheap lever and I hope sixgun is paying attention here :D https:/...

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does girding loins make them work better is what I want to know

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easy question for me, a 44 mag rossi 92. That and a 223 wby vanguard are my only centrefires and the 44 sees the most use. It handles hogs and other varmints from subsonics to full power loads.

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Hi fellas, any idea where the following fits into the general rossi timeline. Taurus stamped 44mag 24" stainless octagonal.

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yup there is but not sure what wood he used or stained it with. Im 6'3" but have a 6'8" wingspan so often have a problem with stocks.....and shirts!

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A buddy of mine removed the steel buttplate and added some LOP on my 44. Can run it more comfortably at speed on hogs now.

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Bridger wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:14 pm I’m looking forward to Sixgun’s review when they hit shelves!

mickbr

Anyone run real heavy bullets in their 44mags? I know its not real practical but have an urge to try some. Was even considering rebarreling a rossi 44mag to tight twist as a subsonic thumper. 400 grains is probably a case of diminishing returns but there is something intriguing about a pistol bullet...

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I dont shoot deer but shot hogs with a 357 mag rossi and158xtp. things fell over pretty fast out to 100 yards when bullet starts out at 1850-1900fps. I shot a few at close to 150 yards- as range gets out there they run further but retained velocity is still similar to some 357 pistol loads at muzzle...

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great thread and calibre.

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my second 357 needed serious thumb power to load until a smith friend of mine addressed a burr in the mag tube. The sharp load gate was also contributing to the issue. I left the springs tight on all of mine. Not sure if shortening them can affect loading but as mine disgested every COAL so well I d...

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I think it might be difficult finding what you are looking for in factory ammo. A soft cast HP at subsonic speeds will do what you want but not only will you need to reload, you will also need to cast your own bullets. Mould makers like MP-Molds and NOE should be able to provide the style of mould ...

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I also chase low velocities in 44 and formerly 357 magnum carbines for low noise. Light loads of fast burning powders I found 150-200fps was typical going from pistol to the carbine barrel . One surprise was the Remington UMC 38+P 125 SJHP which runs about 950fps from a pistol but chronied at just u...

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The reality is most expanding bullets for 44 will not expand subsonically. I would say the only RNFP that would expand low speed are very soft cast and I dont know a lot about them so cant comment. For jacketed bullets your best bet is the JHP designed for 44 special velicotes. I did a bit of study...

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XTP bullets feed very reliably in my Marlin 1894, like my practice RNFP’s, and are designed to expand at very low velocities, as low as 700 fps in the 38’s and 750 fps in the 44’s. https://i.ibb.co/tp24xnp/2-C7163-FA-1-C85-4-B34-8-C13-0-AE398-B58-DCC.webp those velocity envelope charts by hornady a...

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The reality is most expanding bullets for 44 will not expand subsonically. I would say the only RNFP that would expand low speed are very soft cast and I dont know a lot about them so cant comment. For jacketed bullets your best bet is the JHP designed for 44 special velicotes. I did a bit of study ...

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Thanks Gents. so can I scope an angle eject winchester? Its the 8th deadly sin I know, but my eyes wont handle open sights these days

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I came across an excellent condition win 94 in 44 mag, 24" round barrel in the LGS. I had been looking for a 24" 44mag to accompany my shorter rossi 92 but read the win 94 is not a great platform for pistol cartridges though. Any guesses on whether I would be buying into problems with one ...

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good advice from all above. I have no DIY skills, the most I did on my own with my Rossis is work them a lot of times whilst watching TV as you intend. I did have a bevel in the mag tube, sharp load gate and extractor which was nicking rims on one of my Rossi's. I had this attended to by a gunsmith ...

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good luck and hope those 44 special cycle good in your 92

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If you are wounded first, you may be clearing that next room to make it to freedom or bleed out. Perps dont always occur singly. Id be prepared to handle more scenarios personally. The strong room or panic room scenario has pros and cons

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Don't know anything about production of them, but I do know that you can shoot .44-40's in them just fine. They will not feed through the action but they do eject just perfectly. Some years ago at The Shootists Holiday I was walking down the firing line and saw Paco shooting his .444 .. and there w...

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Most factory 44 ammo is going to be running pretty fast out of a carbine, that isnt to say it wont do the job. Recoil isnt too bad in a 44 carbine anyway. For lowest recoil/blast options I'd consider 44 special SD ammo as long as they cycle in your gun . Hornady critical defence 165FTX in 44 special...

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Anyone have one of these? I have never seen one in the flesh and wondered how rare they are. Also when they went out of production

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I have not shot a lot of deer, its mostly hogs where I am. I found the 357 worked well even on large hogs. I never bothered with hardcast in mine. The 158XTP hollowpoint pushed hard handled large hogs no problem. I also used lighter 38 special bullets such as the remington UMC 38+P 125SJHP. for smal...

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If they had decent quality control several barrel length options including 24", and twist and bore diametres matching revolvers I would pay good money. Get rid of 1:30 and 1:38 twists and up to 5-6 thou variance in bores between manufacturers, models, even individual rifles. It boggles my mind ...

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Nice write up Bill. It does look like mustard gas burn doesnt it. My great uncle took severe wounds in WW1 basically had part of his his a** and the stuff in front all taken off by shrapnel He spent half a year laying face down in hospital while it healed. Lived about 20 years after the war, died un...

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great photos Jim. These days I see old photos I want to step into them to get back to an era that made sense

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Ive owned 4 Rossi 92- 3 x 357's, I x 44mag and do all my hunting with lever actions. Regards feeding the shorter rounds all 4 of mine fed 38 special (and 44 special in the 44)and full length magnums without a hitch. I tested how short I could go with wadcutter shapes in 357 and I think at 1.33"...

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On the box it says 1500fps from a revolver which sounds about right as I ran it through my 20"Rossi 92 and velocities were 2016fps, 2004fps, 1998fps. Fast and consistent and muzzle energy averages at 1780ftlbs. . One fella told me at that speed he had multiple broadside exits on small hogs as i...

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That link goes to a different story doc. As to UFo;s my grandad told me a story about seeing lights in the sky when out on the trail as a young man. He said he saw 4 stars moving together over head then they all split off 4 directions and dissappeared. This was a long time before jet powered flight ...

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Not quite sure what history class they slept through to fall for that socialist trap... :roll: I think we are all falling for the trap doc. The people with all the money just doubled it the last few years while we all argue black vs white, liberal vs conservative, trans vs hetero. We have only been...

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45 colt but with -230 grain gold dot JHP handloads . They open to 70cal at under 900fps. In fact this bullet still expands under 800fps. I like similar load of 900fps in 44 special with 200gn gold dots. I am an ex-357 junkie but prefer the bigger slower cals now as they are much easier on my earballs.

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climate change is just another distraction while they continue the main game of transferring middle class wealth out of middle class hands. 3 years of covid, ukraine war debacle, BLM, the trans movement, climate change and maybe killer frogs from Mars next and the net effect of this monster of the w...

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Semiautos I agree, working a lever fast I feel more comfortable with my thumb doing just one job, stabilising its side of the forend . Plenty of fingers on the other side to both stabilise and hit a switch. I try to do some practice of both shoulders too so the thumb gets a workout anyway.

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I’m thinking not too toxic as it’s not in a frame or isotank

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from wikipedia a range of heavy liquids are used by industry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_liq ... 20mixtures.

mickbr

Just large hogs for me. I do subsonic shooting at times and even got light speer 135gn gold dots and rem 125 golden sabres meant for the 38special to work. these are two of the few bullets that will expand down to 900fps impact or so. Carefully set up shots over baits of course. For regular ground s...

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I only own 2 centrefires these days Bill, a 223 bolt action and a 92 rossi in 44mag, 20" stainless and it does most of the work.I used to run a couple of 357 rossis previously but wanted more thump with subsonics in particular so the 357's got traded. Big fan of the 44 now. I talk to some afric...

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Nice Bill and my vote is for not chopping the mag. The 20" round barrels are very light guns . I used to get 12 x 38 special in mine and well I thought that was pretty cool.

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Thanks Doc, yes where I am not much worry with 2 legged predators, the unwelcome guests are all 4 legged.

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I was hoping Doc would give it his judgement

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Whats your favorite bump gun fellas? Just recovered from a shoulder decompression here, got around to bubbarizing the 44 I bought a while back. Flashlight is 1400lumen osram emitter, more range at night than the gun does. Bushnell TRS-1. The tape job is actually as cheap and poorly applied as it loo...

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