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Hello Brad, Success! With the serial number I found the original set of photographs which you had sent me but sadly the original email discussion is gone from my computer. So here is what I can tell you. The receiver was serialized on the 25th of November in 1912. There is a pretty good chance the r...

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Hello Brad,

I am sorry but after searching my emails I do not find any information regarding a Model 1892 in 25-20 from you.
Can you please resend it to me at 2bitrifles@gmail.com

Thanks
Michael

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To all, Since my last post in September while I was traveling throughout Italy I have added another 411 rifles to the 1892 survey thus puting me at 4142. Slowly but surely I am making progress. Thanks to the guys who have contacted me via this link with data on their rifles. If anybody has any 1892 ...

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SHASTA, Thanks for the email and the photos of the gun. As you said, too bad somebody D&T the receiver. But on the bright side you got a darn good and inexpensive shooter. Your rifle was serialized during August of 1937. It was probably fully assembled and out the door within a month or so. I no...

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Hello Booger Bill, I love the story!! The gun and the photo are priceless. Your rifle was serialized during the first few days of Feb 1937. I appreciate the support. I just need a few thousand more rifles and we will have it all figured out. If anybody has a Model 1892/92 I am doing the same effort ...

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Hello to all, I have decided to begin cataloging the caliber and barrel configurations of for the entire the Model 61 production run. While chewing off a small, certain unique style may be easier it ends up letting too much good and usefull data go past you in the hope of somebody else getting it. I...

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The only problem with that list is it is the same old data and is not correct for many of the Models listed. For starters the last serial number produced for the Model 1892 in the year 1892 was 7071, (based on the original serialization and warehouse records kept by Winchester at the time of product...

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Hello, Nice looking sporting rifle! I am working on a research survey of the 1892 rifles and wuld like to add yours to my work. If you will send me detail photos of the barrel address, caliber stamp, upper tang stamp, and the full serial number I can tell you how your rifle fits in with the changes ...

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Good morning from Italy Kirk, There is mention of e few Model 53 rifles in the following post that you might want to capture for your survey. Just in case you had not seen it. I am hoping for some feedback from the 1892 and 92 owners so I can enter their rifles into my effort also. And yes that is a...

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Hello everyone, I am still at it with the Model 1892/92 survey. I have 3731 rifles in the effort and would like to eventually have 10,000 rifles so that the statistical analysis is as accurate as possible. I can not do this without the help of the other collectors, shooters, and enthusiasts out ther...

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Hello to all the winchester Model 1892, 92, and 53 owners who replied to this post. I am conducting a research survey of the 1892/92 line of rifles and have just over 3700 rifles in the effort. I would love to add any of your rifles into the effort if you would be so kind. I will need a few photos o...

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Thanks guys I appreciate your replies.

Michael

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I have a Winchester model 92, 32-20 that has been converted to .357 mag.
I understand that some modification has to be done to the carrier, which wasn`t done at time of conversion. What modification does this consist of and can it be done by a non gunsmith?

Thanks.
Need this for a friend.
Michael

twobit

Hello,

Your Model 94 was actually manufactured during 1940 not 1943. At this point you may want to entertain the idea of having it reblued so that the metal won't turn pumpkin orange orange with rust. The bluing is gone so it will need to be protected.

Michael

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allhands, Your rifle has a very good chance of being 100% original but not necessarily as much of a special order gun as some might think. Lots of features that are described as "special order" and thus implying to a point that a person basically ordered a rifle from a menu of options were...

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Hobie wrote: Just in case this isn't clear to you or to anybody lurking. We CAN NOT tell what the original chambering was without a factory letter. It really does seem pretty simple. Get the letter and then plan accordingly. 25-35 Developed 1895 Parent case .30-30 Winchester Bullet diameter .258 in...

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Hello,

I am contemplating purchasing a thermal might vision scope to use for hog hunting in central Texas. Has anyone used one? If so what type and your impressions please. Has anybody hunted with Jäger Pro and can you comment on the equipment used?

Thanks
Michael

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SnR, The original barrel for the rifle may have been either full octagon, full round or possible even a half octagon configuration. The magazine has most definintely been cut down to its present length since the end cap is not correct for a factory original short magazine. If you are seriously conte...

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All of you, or as we say here in Texas, Y'all might like reading this:
http://www.leverguns.com/articles/44wcf.htm

Michael

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Hello .32 WCF ballistics (muzzle): bullet - 110 gr soft point velocity - 2,100 ft/s energy - 1,077 ft·lb Of course the .32-20 is adequate for deer within the 100 -150 yard ranges it was intended for. I don't doubt you can get that velocity in a modern rifle with todays powder and a jacketed bullet. ...

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Hello MacEntyre, Thanks for the images and the SN so that I could add the rifle to my survey. Your rifle is actually a carbine configuration that was ordered without the saddle ring, but with a special order shotgun butt. The interestting thing abot the stock is the inclusion of the Whelen flutes on...

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MacEntyre,

I will be glad to get the data and add the rifle to my work. You can either send me photos or I will send a set to you
that the rifle 'should' match. 2bitrifles@gmail.com

Thanks
Michael

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MacEntyre, If you can tell ne what the serial number is I will be able to tell you what the barrel address, caliber stamp, and upper tang ought to be so you will know if the rifle is original or not. Is it a short barrel rifle or saddle ring carbine configuration? http://www.levergunscommunity.com/v...

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Happy New Year Dallas,

I appreciate it again. That is a pretty nice looking rifle in am uncommon configuration.
I have emailed for some more photos of the details. I will keep my fingers crossed.

Michael

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Hello Babalooie, Congrats on the 'new' rifle! Could I get a bit more info from you concerning the gun so that might be able to add it into my research survey? I will need the full serial number and detail photos of the barrel address, caliber stamp, upper tang stamp, and the butt plate. You can read...

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Dallas,

I greatly appreciate the effort. Thank you.
I know a couple guys working the same sort of project on the Model 53 and 65 rifes and Iwill pass those rifles on to them.

Like the Beatles said "I get by with a little help from my friends!"

Thanks
Michael

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Shrapnel, I have spent the last 20 minutes removing the egg on my face. I have no excuse except for dead brain cells. Here is what I can tell you with regard to your rifle: You obviously have the ledger data for it so not much new there. The barrel address is the third style found on the round barrr...

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Merry Christmas to all, The Model 1892 Survey is going quite well. I now have just a few over 2700 rifles in the data base. By now the major differences made during production are fairly well defined but narrowing down the gaps from one style to the next is fairly wide in some instances. It is still...

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I am always a bit skeptical about these "great game camera" sequences that get posted. Not sure of how much effort this might have taken but I have to wonder what are the chances that this one in a million event just happened to occur in front of somebodies game camera? Another thing that ...

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It's a sorta, kinda, Model 92 but they got the receiver all wrong. It is a mix of a Model 1892 and 1894 receiver. Look at the left rear vertical of the receiver and compare with the 1894 on the middle photo and the 1892 in the bottom photo. In addition, the lower edge of the receiver is shaped like ...

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Good morning Marvin, That is a good looking Model 92! I just received my 16th one so I have a serious affliction that does not appear to be getting any better! I am conduting a research survey of the Model 1892/92 line and would love to be able to add yours into the work. You can read a bit about it...

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The Winchester Book by Madis does cover a great amount of material but sadle it is filled with incorrect data for many of the models in relation to date of manufacture and the relative rarity of many configuration specifics. Some day I will put out a book regarding the 1892 rifle which will cover mu...

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Kirk,

Great rifle! What would it take to get it to Texas? Is that possible?

Michael

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TN Big Bore wrote: I have a first year 92 in 38-40. The telgraphist wrote: I recently purchased a 92 made in 1903 in this calibre, Any chance I have both of these rifles in my research survey? Please read the following and contact me if interested in adding your rifles to the work. I currently have...

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Hello, Yes, there absolutely were sporting rifles manufactured with carbine rear sights. There is also a "sporting leaf" rear sight that is very similar to the carbine rear and you may be confusing them. What are the distance gradations on the sight? Both of these are noted as such in the ...

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Redlevel, Any chance you happen to recall the serial number of the rifle? I am working on a research survey and would like to add the gun into the work. Based on the style of the upper tang stamp it is beyond SN #505000. You can read about what I am doing in these two forum posts. I now have over 22...

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I totally agree with those thatsay the Model 55 is not that rare of a gun at all. And takedowns are not that hard to find either. Yes it is "NICKEL STEEL" alloy in the barrel not nickel plated. A buffed receiver with no bluing. A $500 shooter grade gun on a good day when the stars align! M...

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Tim, If you will post, or send me some photos of the rifle I should be able to tell you if it is in its factory original configuration. There were lots of 20 inch octagon barrel rifles made. The unique point of your gun is its short magazine. My guess is it is a cut down gun. The barre laddress will...

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Hello Morgan,

Can you please read this and if you want contact me with information on your 1892. I would love to add it to my work.
http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... ey#p343093

Thanks
Michael

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If I fish, I use a fly rod. Period! I just caught my 35th different species of fish on one yesterday!! I am heading out in the morning to stalk smallmouths in Traverse Bay, Michigan. The water is 2 feet deep and crystal clear. It is just like looking ofr red fish in south Texas. Wish me luck Michael

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Meeteetse, Here is the data you need. The serial number is the last for the year. 1940 1259563 1941 1313301 1942 1343183 1943 None 1944 1343196 1945 1352066 1946 1411000 1947 1470000 1948 1560000 1949 1660000 From SN 1375557 to SN 1547130 Thr front barrel band was flat sided instead of rounded. Basi...

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OK. I have 40 but it is no big deal. Lots of guys have MANY more than that. I just took a long road trip, 2100 miles and I am far from home still, to catalogue almost 200 Model 1892 rifles for my research. The first stop after leaving Hosuton was Tulsa, OK. The Davis Arms & Historical Museum is ...

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Hello, The rifle is technically a Model 94 and it was manufactured during 1946. Is the finish factory original on the gun? If it is and depending on just what the description of "good all around condition with a little bluing wear just north of the forearm." really looks like $350 would be...

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Thunder 50, A 51xxx serial number, (it was probably less than 51500) would have been stamped on the receiver in November of 1895. The rifle would have been fully assembled and in the warehouse between December 1895 to February 1896. If you can tell me the name and contact info for the shop I would l...

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Driftwood wrote: For the price I paid for it, I am just going to leave the crappy weld job alone. It would be a simple and realtively cheap fix to get a replacement ring and just switch them out. They are easy to find. awpk03s wrote: Anyone had any success putting a sling stud on the end cap it dir...

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Pretty nice looking rifle. Serialized in late 1902 and in the warehouse in Feb of 1903. Is all original based on the photos you posted. You did not include the barrel address but it should be: MANUFACTURED BY THE WINCHESTER REPEATING ARMS CO. -------NEW HAVEN, CONN. U.S.A. PAT. OCT. 14, 1884.-------...

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The dates for the Winchester Model 1892 rifles is incorrect also. I am working on collecting data to change that.
Please see: http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... ey#p343093

Michael

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Salvo wrote: while the other had nicer wood it was refinished The wood on this rifle has also been sanded and refinished. It would be extremely uncommon for a rifle of this vintage to have the amount of bluing worn off the receiver yet have unmarked wood. In addition, the upper corners of the stock...

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Futura, Gamkeeper and Bigbore,

Let me just say thanks for some well thought out and informative replies to the question asked.
They are much better responses than those posted before.

Michael

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Hello, The biggest problem with public land is just how little there is. You can find hogs all over Texas. If you are in Texas you can find a hog hunt within an hour fairly easily. Success will range from guaranteed to it could take a few days depending on the weather/drought. Lots of central TX is ...

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