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Twobit, in my safe and one in my son's safe what info can you get from the initials on the lever? I have 3 '94s in my safe and 1 in my son's safe. JerryB, There is no "information to get" based on the letters stamped on the rifle. As I mentioned they are just inspectors marks. At some poi...

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I sent my 30-30 off to Jesse at JES reboring and it came back A 38-55, so little if any additional work. As to where to send it...the best is Turnbull but to get the best you gonna pay. It would be a horrendous waste of money to send a 1974 vintage Model 94 to Turnbull for work. You would NEVER get...

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Good morning,

There are most often small numbers or letters stamped on either side of the lever on Winchesters. These are inspectors marks which were applied either during the manufacture of the receiver itself or during the assembly of the full rifle.

Michael

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Thanks for that Michael. The checkering on the hammer is the standard square pattern. Did you receive the email I sent you? Thanks for your expertise. Yes I received the email with the photos. Thanks so much for the effort. Both rifles have been added into my survey. Let me know if you have any fur...

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Good morning, Based on the upper tang stamp I can tell you that the octagon barreled sporting rifle was manufactured before mid 1904. If you will post a detail photo of the barrel address stamp in front of the rear sight I may be able to narrow it down further. The rear sight is not original nor is...

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Good morning, Based on the upper tang stamp I can tell you that the octagon barreled sporting rifle was manufactured before mid 1904. If you will post a detail photo of the barrel address stamp in front of the rear sight I may be able to narrow it down further. The rear sight is not original nor is ...

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coyote nose wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:56 pm Hope you enjoy the photos, this is basically whats left after thinning out a few at gun shows. The 1892 and 94 are Dads.
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Coyote nose,

Could I add your Model 1892 into my survey? http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=606355

Thanks
Michael

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Thunder50 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:48 am It was a standard rifle stock and a solid frame gun, not take down.

Thanks so much for the info. I am surprised it is a solid frame gun.

Michael

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Thunder50, Thanks for the SN. The rifle was manufactured during 1915. Was the butt stock a standard rifle stock with a pistol grip or a shotgun butt with pistol grip? Do you recall if it was a take down frame or solid frame gun. ALL of the sporting rifles which I have seen in that SN range are take ...

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What caught my eye of the '92 is that it has a pistol grip and curved lever. Also, didn't have my tape measure, but I think it also had a 26" barrel. Was the pistol grip a common option? Think its the first I have seen. Receiver has little finish and is quite pitted Bad news was the bore isn't...

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cubrock wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:04 am I have looked and haven't found them. They are on an archive drive somewhere around here. If I find them, I'll let you know. Mine were marked identically to the pictures posted in this thread, though.

Thanks. I would love to add any new SN's into my data.

Merry Christmas
Michael

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cubrock,

Thanks so much for the links and images. I think that indeed the puzzle may be solved. I have just registered on the FAL Files forum and will post a thread there. Did you ever get a chance to look for the photos of your 1892's which had this marking on them?

Thanks again
Michael

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Mystery solved. The marking is a stamp from the Argentine arsenal FMAP-Rosario. It is sometimes seen on FAL parts kits from FMAP. I recently saw an FAL lower receiver with the exact same marking stamped on it, which led me to talk to FAL guys about the marking and bingo! These guns must have gone t...

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I agree that the left most rifle is most likely a Marlin. The three SRC's have all had the rings removed from the mounting stud. The right most rifle is most likely a, 1892 but it is a take down frame rifle not a "button mag carbine" since that gun does not have a barrel band around the fo...

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Thanks to all! I've removed everything needed to ship barrel. Ser.# 530414 It sounds like your rifle is a sporting rifle configuration since you did not mention a saddle ring or barrel bands on the gun. Is the barrel round or octagon shaped? http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=606355 Mic...

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Hello, I have my grandfathers 92. I'm shipping it to have a liner installed. I have to remove the stock and forearm. I have some questions about removing of the forearm. I have removed the shell feeder tube and spring. I have removed butt stock. I have removed the (2) screws holding the forearm cap...

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Griff wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:49 pm
GunnyMack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:24 pmI guess you could also dress up like Bill Murry in Caddyshack!
Although... he wasn't all that successful!

I don't know about that. He made A LOT of money from that film!!

Michael

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twobit, Don't ya just hate it when you're gonna go deer hunting, and you're looking for your favorite rifle, and it's 4:00 in the afternoon before you finally find it? :lol: A beautiful sight indeed. Looks someone kinda likes 61's too. One of my favorites, also. How long have you been working on th...

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Hello and welcome from Houston. So you like shooting our local hog population with lever guns? I will do the same on occasion out around my ranch near Giddings, TX. I still like using a bow the best. Nice and quiet! And don't forget to chase the coyotes also. Now that is a challenge! Michael photo3....

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No fancy staging and photography but this is just about all of them!!

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Hello, I live in Houston, Texas and will not be there but I am working on a research survey of the Model 1892 rifles and if you will pass on my contact info I am more than willing to answer any question anyone might have regarding their rifles. I can be reached at 2bitrifles@gmail.com Here is a link...

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I just acquired an 1892 Winchester that someone has done a bit of shade tree "gunsmithing" work on. It's in pretty poor shape as it stands, but I think I'd like to try and bring it back to a shooter if I can. The first thing I need to find a used buttstock for it. Not looking for anything...

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Stefan,

Nice examples! Congrats.

Michael

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Nice hunt and a HUGE hog. 350 is a big one around my place east of Austin about 50 miles or so. Where were you hunting in our fine state?

Michael

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I may have pictures of one of them. They would be archived on a separate drive from my main computer at this point. If I find them, I'll let you know. I don't remember serial numbers, but, if I have pictures, I should have pictures of the serial numbers. Cubrock, That would be fantastic! I apprecia...

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Interesting this is resurrected now, as I was just talking about these guns with a friend at a gun show today. I don't think you can tie them to something in Europe based on what info you have. If they had been imported into Germany from anywhere in the world, they would have to have been proofed a...

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Updated again: I sent an email to the owner of the rifle at the top of this post http://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/stamped-model-1892/#p59113 which prompted all of this effort and asked if his rifle had any "importers" stamp on the lower tang. Ta Da!! It in fact did, ...

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Here is what I know so far. All four of the rifles are 44 WCF saddle ring carbines. All are refinished. One has German proofs and two others are marked on the lower tang with importer stamps. The two are different import companies. All three known serial numbers are in the 865803 to 875582 range cor...

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Hello, I know that this thread is ancient history but I have been working on a research survey of the Model 1892 rifles for more 7 years now and am trying to document what this marking really is. The more examples of it I can find will eventually help unravel the mystery. I hope! If Driftwood Johns...

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Here is one I shot a few years back on Christmas morning at the ranch. Model 1873 in 38 WCF.

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The holes in the receiver really kill the potential value of the rifle and the stock has been brutally sanded and the fit to the receiver is lousy. You did well to pass on the gun. The wood should fit as shown in the attached photos.

Michael

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Hello Thunder50, Congrats on the new rifle. I own LOTS of Model 1892 rifles and they are a pleasure to shoot and hunt with. I am working on a research survey of the Model 1892's and would like to add your gun into my database. Would you be so kind to send me a series of photos of the areas stamped w...

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Hello FatJack, Congrats on your first Winchester. I remember when I had just one. Then another 100 or so kept showing up. Be careful it can be an addiction. All of the 25-20 and 32 WCF caliber saddle ring carbines which have a full length magazine do use the "rifle style magazine retaining ring...

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What are the ballpark breakdown by calibre, with specific intrest in .32WCF? Hello BF44, I have been conducting a research survey of the Model 1892 rifles for 5 years now in an effort to determine the correct answer to questions just like this one. To date I have catalogued just over 9,200 individu...

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I just wanted to give another round of thanks to everyone in this thread! Thank you! Glad to help for sure. And thank you so much for the full SN of the rifle so that I could enter it int my survey. I have cataloged just over 8000 rifles to date. Be careful though. Collecting these rifles can be ha...

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This copper plated. (Not factory....a very old job). 1892 is close to yours. 25493 http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/image57.jpeg Hello Sixgun, CAn you please post images of the barrel address, caliber stamp, and upper tang of your rifle so I can enter the information into my survey? The recei...

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Daisyman wrote: By the way, I have a '92 in 32-20 with serial #220XX made just about the same time as yours. I would love to add your rifle into my research also. Please read the following and contact me via email if you would like: http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=606355 Thanks for t...

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jfg_4, What you have is a round barrel, solid frame version of the sporting rifle configuration. The octagon barrel variation is by far much more popular and these were also available with a half round/half octagon barrel. The 44 WCF is the largest of the four calibers offered in the Model 1892. Tho...

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PSE?? A "Tactical Assault" crossbow??? What a bunch of stupid marketing BS is that. How about just a bow to use for a well thought out deer or hog hunt instead of trying to make some guys dick bigger because of what you call the crossbow!! I have used a Mission bow (made by Mathews) and th...

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Thanks Les!!

I greatly appreciate the help. Is the two line barrel address on the top of the barrel or on the left side? Winchester was transitioning to the left side position at the time your rifle was manufactured, mid 1909.

Michael

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Hello Les, Congrats on the new rifle! I love the 25-20 caliber. You can shoot all day with almost no recoil and the shoulder is not sore. Could I ask for a photo of the upper tang, the barrel address stamp found between the front and rear sights, and the serial number of the gun. I am working on a ...

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Michael, will be glad to oblige, but not today. Have a killer chest cold and not feeling like doing much. The tang sight is covering the upper tang info. Says "trademark registered in US patent office". The serial # dates it to 1909 according to Maddis . Please PM me in a couple weeks and...

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Hello Les, Congrats on the new rifle! I love the 25-20 caliber. You can shoot all day with almost no recoil and the shoulder is not sore. Could I ask for a photo of the upper tang, the barrel address stamp found between the front and rear sights, and the serial number of the gun. I am working on a r...

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That is a long way from Houston. Do you do any good??

Michael

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Hello, I have shots LOTS of hogs and the .308 is absolutely fine. Just shoot at the base of the ear and make certain that your rifle is sighted in accurately. Also use a bipod. If the best you can shoot is a 5 inch group then aim behind the shoulder and low. I also have killed a fair number with a ....

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Thanks Jerry.

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Win 40-82 wrote: Checked my Madis book and according to that the first 92 built in 1918 was 853820 making mine a 1917, not that it makes a lot of difference. The pat stamp is on left flat next to rear sight. I would be interested in any info that you have on this rifle. The DOM information in the M...

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Hello Win 40-82, Thanks for the additional photos and also ignore my last PM. Too much sun down here in Belize!! Your rifle was actually manufactured during 1918 not 1917. One thing which is very unique is the style of 2 line barrel address found on the gun. That style was commonly used much earlier...

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win40-82, I have a Winchester 1892 rifle in 32wcf made in 1917 and it is 695 rifles older than your 38-40 and does not have the finish yours has. I bought it from my uncle in the early 1950's for 15.00 dollars. It is still my favorite rifle. The serial number is 846077. Hello Jerry, Could you pleas...

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Thanks Win 40-82. I appreciate it.
I am fishing in Belize right now so it may be a day or two before I can do much detail work.

Michael

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