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Nate Kiowa Jones

I recently asked someone in the "industry", so to speak. He said that the USFA outfit was never actually a serious entrepreneurial endeavor despite its popularity and initial success. Basically just a rich heir who had been to tool and die class and loved single actions. The guy got bored...

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Guns and gun relate sales are down everywhere. They plummeted after POTUS election. It's call the trump slump.

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Something is not right. It is in the safety notch. It may be in the notch outside the gun but the hammer would be resting on the bolt when it's assembled Someone has been whittling on that trigger. it is no where long enough. This is what it should look like. http://homesteadparts.com/shopcart/cart...

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I believe that it has the wrong hammer! See pix. Notice that the middle front of the hammer is not cut away. The pix shows the carrier in the position to allow the trigger in the safety notch. I think the hammer is correct. however the notches may have been re-cut. About the only way to know is lay...

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. Welcome to the fire, Pardner ! Given it's age, and the fact that it's acting funky when fully assembled, I would first investigate wood shrinkage in the wrist area of the buttstock. If that's allowing the lower tang to be pulled up a tad more than it should be, the closer (to the upper tang) posi...

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Many 1895's have excessive headspace from guys shooting up bucket loads of surplus ammo.. I don't read this, I've experienced beat up 1895's in '06. But even if it does have excessive headspace, it's nothing to size your brass accordingly and shoot cast....or even jacketed......keep your brass sepa...

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https://youtu.be/ZYuuFSxcDTs I have always thought that the description of AR's as "direct gas impingement" was not right. Maybe just semantic nit-picking , but the video was not only good in that it reaffirmed my nerdy insistence that AR's are more complex than DGI guns, but was just a n...

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As clean as that break is it can be glued using a thin CA glue. This brand is thin as water so it wicks into the crack really well. Starbond EM-02 Super Fast Thin, PREMIUM If it won't clamp use surgical tubing wrapped around it to clamp it together. Flood it in under the tang areas paying attention ...

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Prayers Up.

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. Welcome to the board ! I used commercial CorBon high-performance JSP loads @ 1100fps quite successfully on deer in my .45 Rossi Model 92. I would, however, recommend keeping lead boolit loads( w/o gas checks) under 1,000fps to avoid barrel/rifling leading. . And in his case suppressor leading. No...

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this is exactly why I walked away from Rossi 92's...I liked the gun I just didn't like the build quality... IS ROSSI MAKING THE 92 ANYMORE? ... :( Sort of. Rossi was acquired in about 2009 by Taurus. The product list was narrowed down somewhat. (no more 20" octagons) In the last few years they...

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Priming last is scary.

If the 22 blank gets canted not going it straight and binds it could set it off.
once resized i see no reason not to prime first. then powder and bullet

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Hi Jeff, First, thanks for buying my stuff. What I have found is it really has nothing to do with the lower tang position. It has more to do with Rossi's sometimes poor machining. The holes in the reciever don't always line up with the bolts. It makes it difficult to get the pin in and worse getting...

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Nath wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:06 pm You know what....I would rather have a 357 rifle over 30wcf!

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With the right ammo there is not that much difference. Buffalo bore shows a 158 from an 18.5" Marlin at 2150 FPS

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I know this is political but it's also important. If you haven't done so, tomorrow is your last chance to vote. Good things are happening. We need to keep it going.

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Will send a check.

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Howdy and welcome yep, Over the years done a couple for customers https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/yveAn0ArkIH4FGEzyB3rlsU0ucUwSQwcWUSS6YX03H3ks72C_7yAadAQpqvnjw_rJW62ezVmA7EOL3MmBODKcKp3nFzTWhUrOb-C6N7RAYZwmxq3S_7eymOe5qWGA_SYvJvfNctCpfAXp0PZZgGP_CXEOepG9PPti9UCmpOx7pJt21THWvhICgbl4eM1cUR9mFNMi2uP...

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Old No7 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:09 pm OK, the joke was pretty good...

But I'm just glad none of your guns were "Stolen!" -- as that's sorta what I was expecting to see here.............

Old No7

Are you sure it's joke!!!!! I was told there are only two lawyer jokes. All the rest are true!!!

Nate Kiowa Jones

I have a 1917 '92 rifle in .38WCF that will do that occasionally. It has always been just a small bit of crud or shaved brass under the extractor hook itself. I suspect that the extractor has worn down just a bit over the years so that it is fussy about being kept clean. With the old ones that is t...

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Excellent info, many thanks. I will see how the 1.475" .38 rounds do (though I wished I'd seen your post before I made them up). Question: with a 158 gr. lead bullet, most sources call for 1.590" (with several propellants) for a .357 mag . Everywhere I go on the interwebs, I read that lev...

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Every 92 I have had here for work that was older than WWI and rechambered to 44 mag had headspace issues. The small cal 92's converted to 357m generally were Ok but I do remember one that wasn't.

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The original Winchester 92's were designed to work with bottleneck ammo in the 1.5" to 1.6" OAL with round nose flat point bullets. Ammo like 44-40, 38-40, 32-20 and 25-20. What that means is they may not work well with really long 357’s. (They tend to hit the top inside of the chamber bef...

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The ER's are nothing more than a tuned Uberti SAA with CAS style wide sights and narrowed checkered grips. but, I wouldn't say they are a step above the Rugers. If you want tuff out of the box, Ruger is the way to go, but I don`t consider it to be a true SAA clone. The ruger lock works were designed...

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Steve: Many thanks for your reply. From it I believe that Kris Bonner, a competent local gunsmith, would be capable of doing the entire conversion at a price I can live with, or could complete indexing the barrel were I t try the conversion myself. As far as I can tell, mechanisms are identical. Th...

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Everything is the same except the cart guides. Even the 44mag guides can be used if you remove enough material from the back of the right side guide to allow the 45lc to pass through. The one problem you may run into is barrel stub threads. Basically the pre 2000 barrels had different threads than t...

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Not a stupid hunter but a spoiled but smart deer. This happened this week. The mound of dirt is the berm at the back of my shooting range. I also have a feeder there too. Notice the ropes and pulley there on the left. I was back there testing and refilling the feeder and she heard it so here she com...

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Old Savage wrote: ↑Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:32 am Nate, I believe I have that same holster made and signed by Big Ed.

I think that canvas belt is one of his too.

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This is not an entirely serious post, I let a friend of mine handle my rossi 92 with 24" octagonal barrel. He remarked he thought lever actions were meant to be light, you could use this as a club. I said levers are sometimes light but this is copying an older barrel design. Then I thought he ...

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If you live in a humid area stainless carry guns are hard to beat. They will still rust but not as bad as a blued gun and can easily be restored with a little buffing. For those that don't like bright stainless' https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VrMz-ImvxkYxt0bn-nV1PP3qTIMQa8uO_BhfvZMl0c9RgEgiFzzx6q...

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I have a Rossi .357 that gave me no end of feeding fits when I first got . Finally, a guy loaned my his Lee Factory Crimp die and all the problems magically went away. I am using the Berry's plated 125 grain bullets. Yep, the 357 Rossi likes a good crimp. I can't tell how many times I get these gun...

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One of the reasons I like the Rossi's over the current Win/Miroku is the design of the cartridge guides. Win still uses the geometer of the originals when it comes to the angle of the rim slots. The original style guides do well with the bottleneck cartridges of which the guns were first designed fo...

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PatientWolf wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:23 pm Interesting. On page 3 they list both 16" and 20", but on the spec page they only list 20".

Fairly typical for Rossi. At one time they had a picture of a stainless 24" octagon with the caption that it was in 454 casull. But, they never made it.

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Blaine; I don't know what the current catalog shows but they used to have a 16" Trapper model. I've got one in .357 and one in .45 Colt. Am I greedy? YEP!! Don't know who is going to end up with them .but they're going to have to wait for me to let go. Pepe Ray This link is to the current 2018...

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I just got word that my backorders are shipping today. At least the stainless 20" round barrel carbines.
Hopefully Rossi is back up and running again.

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I have a friend that is a city inspector for new construction building. He tells me there permit submittals have quadrupled in the last 14 months .

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Who's looking for an 1894 in 32-20? Marlin Model 1894 CL Classic full mag with CAS action work https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/GINSP3RvSjLQzPaveJgO61nMBlHPzQkY34rohRPEPoSurcYYPzvo1Z-FGw1EOhTgUKDQ2ObpGKoCYXsLj_-dQQRL9kUESaIB5jq7poSEZs8cHFBB2qdRgTJz31Ec6dzSLyqCpGoAzYez9LbXR4Kwsqhsvnx33JyCpbwe6j-Xu0g...

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Sarah was in the fertilized egg business. She had several hundred young pullets and ten roosters to fertilize the eggs. She kept records and any rooster not performing went into the soup pot and was replaced. This took a lot of time, so she bought some tiny bells and attached them to her roosters. E...

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I just watched it, I believe its a 92 (full screen and stop motion), but yeah, they overdid the capability of the silencer. Marshall Dillon got a bullet that Doc took fromone of the victim's and said it's a 30 call rifle bullet- that's why I said a 94... The muzzle wasn't threaded, more of a push &...

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Deaf, Welcome to the fire. If your gun has the D&T-ed holes under the rear sight it is one of the late molded from about 2010 on. At one time Rossi offered a weaver rail for a scout scope. that rail fits those holes. They still D&T the barrels but haven't had the rail for several years. :? S...

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Nate Kiowa Jones

That scope is pretty kewl :mrgreen: Must be off set to allow for case ejection. OR if it is a Marlin , were they side ejection back then on some levers ? One if the few that I have seen on a lever gun that looks alright! I see the saddle in lower right ! Maybe the horses were the bear alarm ?? All ...

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hayabusa wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:36 pm Nate, I have never put eyes on one of those Rossi in that configuration.

They only made them for about 2 or three year in the late 90's. they were imported by InterArms just before they went out of business, all 45lc. In the early 2000's EMF imported some color-cased in 357 mag.

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My wife and I just got back from spending a few days in the Palo Duro Canyon. It is 30 minutes from Amarillo Texas in the Panhandle. As the Second largest canyon in the U.S., it is also worth a visit. The paved road runs all the way to the bottom, and there hiking trails all over. Got a horse? Take...

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In the late 90's Rossi came out with their first rifle configured gun, a half round half octagon 24". Most were in 45lc. of the rossi rifles it is the only one that feels like a tapered octagon barrel Winchester 92 rifle. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5CmkDSuEc5FsumDVm9vEOgXz2vrX53--KdWjfZ0...

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Something else to consider. Is this a scope made for a 22? If you are using a fixed objective centerfire scope the parallax is usually set for 100 yards. Scopes for 22's are usually set for 50 yards.

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So, Steve, has reshaping the Walker rammer detent worked well for you? I have heard this really can help, but doesn't always cure the problem entirely. I wonder if the Slix Shot nipples work as well or better than the Tresos. Yes, but you want that step so the lever is fully up with no up and down ...

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I have both the Dragoon and the Walker. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1NBVoDpwZ-pxvBTnnjT9R6J8x6O6X5RVU0J08bxLw8XVmhcmQit5bHM_ogV5O4ConJT0MxrZLkqomNdz8R8pL24oTqm2Kw-QhJBhHAsDa4EOngki5m25F6uXtPziWuCYzWmNz8b3nDd6DDt9bwQ0PGvUdt2p1-B37ywkM72F5JjcI_y6EJD2KiS6yWMp9BiIj6BobSt2kx4NjXcK-SkCrhSc3MeV3VWd8j...

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