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Scott Tschirhart wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:48 pm That's certainly good enough to get the job done. And it should take anything in North America.

Let’s hope so. Hoping will do our relatively large red deer and fallow deer plus wild boar here

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After a little experimentation, I now only use magnum primers with H110. My results with non-magnum primers were the same as yours. Vita Vuori N110 is a good powder for several loads in my experience. Accuracy has been good for all loads I have tried it with. I like stick powder for moderate loads ...

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KWK wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:50 pm We’ve had nice results, and clean cases, with N110 in the ballistic twin of the 44 Rem, namely the 357.

It does seem to work well in the "magnum pistol" rounds and I hear our Canadian friends like it for being temperature insensitive as apparently it gets cold in parts up there

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I have used N110 with satisfactory results. Being a stick powder, it has different properties from H110. It works pretty good in moderate level loads, whereas I get best results with H110 only in the upper end of the power level. Must admit I am far more used to stick powders than ball. I struggled...

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Oh, yeah! 8) 50 yards that's minute of woodchuck for sure. :lol: (And nice shootin', by the wy....) What're estimating for velocity - 1800fps or so? Plenty for deer, probably black bear, and probably even moose or elk at closer ranges. -Stretch Hi Stretch, Thanks very much - Can't take too much cre...

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wvfarrier wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:03 am Thatll do. Im using Lil Gun ignited by a large rifle primer for my 44 mag hunting load

Thanks very much. I think Lil' gun isn't so far from N110 in terms of burn rate. One is certainly aware the rifle has gone off with this load but should work well.

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Well folks, After a fair bit of trying, think I have an OK hunting load for the .44 mag. Vihtavouri N110 powder Magtech Large Pistol Primer Nosler JSP 240gr The below is just a 4 shot group from the ladder and I reckon the top right is a pull. https://i.imgur.com/raNYXCJl.jpg Only 50 yds but I recko...

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I must admit I enjoy owning a .44 mag lever action...

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Certainly at my folks place lots of pheasants in the garden and the air rifle has been put to good use...

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I have been using Unqiue in 44 magnum and have struggled to get a conistent volume throw.

I hear Universal is much more consistent so tempted to give it a try.

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mickbr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:06 am Reading about all this 44 special stuff makes me want a lever gun to shoot them out of. This urge to have one keeps resurfacing

Do it. I shoot factory 200gr Magtech “Cowboy” in my Chiappa 1892 clone. It’s fun!

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Old Savage wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:59 pm Scrum, the 44 May on that target is Winchester factory white box 240 gr. Happens to work in that rifle.

Thanks very much.

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I use 240gr XTPs over 23gr. of IMR4227. The velocity is right around 1500 in a 16" 94 Trapper. Gunny may be right regarding the XTP if you are driving it for all the speed you can. I usually don't, however, and find the XTP an accurate and versatile bullet. When I was working up loads I rememb...

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I have a 92 japchester in 44 mag. I've used Hornady 240 xtp bullets on deer. My loads were mid level loads and it dropped a deer in its tracks at seventy yards. Ah, for the hunting laws where I am I need to be running them fairly quickly to make the muzzle energy requirement (I don't doubt a mid-po...

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I use 240gr XTPs over 23gr. of IMR4227. The velocity is right around 1500 in a 16" 94 Trapper. Gunny may be right regarding the XTP if you are driving it for all the speed you can. I usually don't, however, and find the XTP an accurate and versatile bullet. When I was working up loads I rememb...

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Viht powders are quality stuff when you can find it. Who cloned your '92? See no reason why a 240 grain shouldn't work in about anything in 44 mag. Its the staple bullet weight for that cartridge. Those 41 Magnums are cool stuff too, big brother to my 10mm which I have always wanted in a levergun, ...

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Old Savage wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:37 pm Might be close.

That's impressive! Would you mind sharing your load data? PM would be fine and I of course understand that useage would be at my own risk.

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if it's like the white box 240Gr commercial load, it shoots well out of the Marlin 44 Mag carbine. In my son's edition, it is the heaviest load that is reliably accurate out of the slow twist barrel. It is a hammer on deer and has made lots of meat for our family. Luckily my barrel is a 1:20 twist ...

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Have used VVN110 in .44 Mag a couple of times. Accuracy is good in a long barrelled Super Blackhawk. It does good out of a semi-auto .44 Mag carbine. Not really any change in point of impact or group size versus using H110. Thanks Piller. N110 is easier and cheaper to get here. Also a bit more flex...

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I use the 210s in my Henry 41 mag. Accurate but I haven't had a chance to get actual field use. I also tried the Speer 210 and the XTP. The XTP is NOT up to the task at carbine velocities per Hornady tech people. Powder is Lilgun making right about 1800fps. I had got that feed back for both the Hor...

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Sorry folks,

I left this alone for too long. Will reply now.

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Hi folks,

I was thinking of loading some 240 gr Nosler JSP over Viht N110 for a hunting load out of a 44 mag 1892 clone.

Does anyone have any experience of this combo in a lever action?

Thanks in advance,

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gamekeeper wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:36 pm
Scrumbag wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:11 pm https://youtu.be/l9kPggzvYtg
Great video, thanks for posting..

Pleasure.

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https://youtu.be/l9kPggzvYtg

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Have a look at C&Rsenal on you tube.

They have a series on winchester lever actions in WW1 including 1894 and some 1892s used by the Royal Navy

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Looks good!

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hfcable wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:47 pm agreed, and the 7x65R is an excellent cartridge

right now I am quite pleased with the 20x20x 25/35...light and handy.. good bird gun in fact.

the 20s are not so common though.

Oh yes, I have a 7x64 and very useful it is too!

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So, I used to live in Switzerland and shot a few drillings. My very limited advice would be: 1) 12g x 12g tends to be rather heavy and unwieldy 2) 16g x 16g is quite useful and not too difficult to feed 3) Get a rimmed rifle cartridge 7x57r, 7x65r, 8x57r are all good options. Again the 9.3s tend to ...

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Well done on the deer!

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crs wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:56 pm Skip them both and go to the Winchester 1895 in .405 WCF!

Well said sir!

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This maybe Heresy but I quite like .44 mag...

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AJMD429 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:28 pm
Scrumbag wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:40 pmSpeaking personally, I still find JMB's design inspirational.*
(*Usually that's inspiring new and creative ways to swear, but it is inspiring, none the less)
That must be why I find plumbing so inspirational...

Exactly my friend!

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gamekeeper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:14 am It's a great way to spend a summer afternoon as long as the bar is open........

Precisely, best socially acceptable way to get tiddled in the middle of the day!

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I have just recently dissassembled and reassembled a Browning Auto 5 for cerakoting the barrel and receiver. Speaking personally, I still find JMB's design inspirational.*

Best wishes,

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(*Usually that's inspiring new and creative ways to swear, but it is inspiring, none the less)

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Only ever owned 2 lever actions:

1) Winchester 9422 in .22lr - man I miss that gun
2) Chiappa Alaskan in .44 mag - currently have this one. Really hard to choose between the 2

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Well, Federal have done a promo video:

https://youtu.be/hju8l0GV6O4

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.45colt wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:56 pm This should be no surprise as about fifteen years ago I was getting 1700+ from My Lyman/Keith 265grn hard cast in the .45 colt. (from a rifle) It was punching holes in 1/4" steel like paper..............................

Really? May I ask what load?

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GunnyMack wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:28 am I dont think I'd want to shoot a whole box of those at one outing from a super Blackhawk! Bet those numbers from a long gun would be great for deer & pigs though.

Oh yeah! Probably make the wrist sting a bit.

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Its a great loading, both the deer i used it one dropped within 20 feet and the one my son shot dropped in its tracks.....granted it was a head shot. Good to know. We have a law here that for the larger species of deer you have to have a Muzzle Energy of 1,700 ftlbs so in a .44 lever action you ten...

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piller wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:15 am Must be using a new powder.

That would be my guess. Wonder what it is.

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GunnyMack wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:28 am I dont think I'd want to shoot a whole box of those at one outing from a super Blackhawk! Bet those numbers from a long gun would be great for deer & pigs though.

Yeah, it's built for lever actions

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wvfarrier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:30 pm Average was 2,063 from a 16" barrel.

That's great, thanks. Should be doing similar with my 20" bbl without too much trouble.

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Hi folks, Anyone had a look at the new Federal Hammer Down ammo? The 44 mag they advertise has some impressive ballistics: 270gr bullet 1715 fps MV Gives - 1764 Ftlbs That's quite impressive. According to Hodgdon there max velocity with a .44 mag rifle and a 270 gr bullet is 1638 fps Be interested t...

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wvfarrier wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:49 pm Im hunting til Sunday. Will check my notes when i get home.

Very kind and I wish you happy hunting!

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wvfarrier wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:18 pm 200 grain Barnes XPB

Great stuff!

Any idea what velocity it was doing?

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wvfarrier wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:47 pm Oh, thats half a grain under the max load according to Hodgens but i found my groups opened up more the higher i got above 28 grains

Looks good! Which bullet is that?

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mickbr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:34 am Nice gun, sorry cant help with the load data. What scope and mounting setup is that?

Thanks Mick!

It's a 2.5x28 Leupold Scout Scope with mounted on the Scout Rail that comes with the rifle and using Hawke Low QD rings.

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As Sixgun says I'd be tempted to try a little heat or see if you can run a little solvent in

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Hi folks, Anyone got any experience of loading Barnes XPB 200 or 225 gr bullets in 44 mag lever actions? My rifle is a 20" bbl Chiappa Alaskan with a 1:20" twist Guessing H110 or Enforcer are my powders of choice? All help much appreciated. This is "the rig" https://i.imgur.com/j...

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Apparently UK supermarket alocohol sales are up massively though

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