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it was the middle of the night and two-bits per slice. right in line with the pay scale.

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me want. is it an 80% lower?

can we pool together to make ammo for them?

or should we make mortars instead? or panzerfausts? yeah, I think.

don't drink coffee in the evening and then log into the 20mm leverguns site!

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Nice! One job I had when I lived in the city was printing photos at a bulk developer place, swing shift, which I loved. Swing, not printing photos. Ate Greek pizza for dinner, bought it by the slice. Don't know what was Greek about it, except it was in the Greek quarter, but it was cheap and I had e...

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7.62 Precision, I replied inside your quote, Design limitations (from the 50 BEO wiki article): the .50 Beowulf is best described as a low-velocity, heavy caliber, making its ballistics roughly equivalent to those of early .45-70 Government rounds rather than the higher pressure rounds tolerated by ...

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Yeah, I think the politics overwhelms the intellect, and I'm sure the 556 will be there until the second coming, for all the reasons you listed. I got one because my own doctrine says to have the capacity to use nato ammo. guess I need to get into mortar next ?

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mack wrote:What lever gun chambering would you recommend for wooly mammoth and cave bears?

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Thanks Rob still trying to unwind my mind from the obvious and evident benefits of 525 grains loafing along around 1500 fps. Kind of the jdam of the ballistics world. At least the shoulder fired hunting portion of the bell curve. Never feel overmatched EXCEPT for the "range" thing. :D :lo...

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Grizz, thought I'd post these numbers together for comparison. 7.62x39 - 8.5" 2101 fps w/Krink I'm going to assume that's a 123gr commie round, not a lot of loss there surprisingly. 7.62BLK - 8" 2051fps 110 Barnes The BLK is pretty close, but still lagging. I really thought the x39 would ...

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Thanks Rob still trying to unwind my mind from the obvious and evident benefits of 525 grains loafing along around 1500 fps. Kind of the jdam of the ballistics world. At least the shoulder fired hunting portion of the bell curve. Never feel overmatched EXCEPT for the "range" thing. :D :lol...

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I came back to the armory with a box of SAA, surplus ammo and arms, 130 Gr solid copper HP for the pistola. There is no velocity data on the box. There is no velocity data on the website. And NO ONE IN THE STORE has a clue what the velocity data is. So, mystery ammo. Chrony time one of these days. I...

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http://www.friesenburgers.com/ if you go to the tacoma dome gun show it's worth the walk to get some food. I'll get the bison next time. close to the best gun store and best used bookstore in the state. I failed to get a gun but I got ammo instead. Just need to discover a rock quarry to safely dispo...

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sorry for the personal damage. glad you recovered. one question, was the mag follower metal or plastic? another question, someone posited that the balloon in the marlin mag was a culprit in mag detonations... does the rossi have the pregnant magazine too? one thought, perhaps the best take-away is t...

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all that mayhem and I'm still not a fan of snakes

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Good deal, looks like a fine bunch of years coming up ahead of you.

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beautiful story and storytelling. you have the gift.

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Alaska has constitutional carry. You live, you pack. No dotgovt hanky-panky. It's your birthright in Alaska.

So does Vermont and somewhere else too I think?

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Old Savage wrote:Guns are a poor return. Wow? Let's see in 1966 I paid $85 for a K22, give me a minute to do the math.

$622.92 will break even:

http://www.dollartimes.com/inflation/in ... &year=1966

so what's mark to market?

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You have a take-down .405 and your question is . . . what?

You have a Browning 71 and your question is . . . what?

maybe the question is should you get rid of everything else . . . what?

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my brother has one with a laser sight. it's scary accurate at indoor range distances. the problem is that, as far as we know, it only uses factory 8 round magazines. if that's wrong he would like to know about it. those magazines aren't compatable or exchangeable with any other magazine that we know...

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I listen to "Truth for Life" by Allistair Begg. You can download content and listen at your leisure. Begg is IMO the best educated, best Bible expositer, and best public speaker on the air that I know of. I suggest trying out his podcasts, they are well worth the time and very thought prov...

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Talked to an A-10 driver in Juneau one day. He told me he can put all his ammo into a 55 gallon drum from a mile away.

The sound of the gun is kind of other-worldly. I wonder what sound track the young guys have running on their ipods while on strafing missions ?

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Ysabel Kid wrote:Long live the A-10!!!

ditto, love that ac.

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We're arguing? I didn't know that. There are more than only us two checking this out, I view it as an opportunity to exalt the LORD. Thanks for helping. :) Grizz I agree.....(Since God has always existed, and predates the universe, I just figgered he loves more than just the Christians....(of which...

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Hey Blaine, I'm not the one to ask about ARs. I only ever shot one the first time a year ago, and the second time a few weeks ago. That's all I got, zip, nada, nuttin'. I'm still wet behind the ar-ears and green as pea sap. Just trolling around gleaning info and trying to organize it usefully. Grizz

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She's wasting away in storage... when I lived in the bay area I build a 45 from parts, literally chased down springer front end, engine, frame, etc., from different sources and built a running Harley that I rode for some years. rode it on the sunday morning ride from the sausalito heliport to pt re...

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We're arguing? I didn't know that.

There are more than only us two checking this out, I view it as an opportunity to exalt the LORD.

Thanks for helping.

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You're giving me "odds".... God could have made a chemical goo into anything he wanted......At the same time, ancient man, being overwhelmed by miracles, would explain them as best he could....Grizz, we agree more than you think..... Grace is the issue, it's the price tag we're talking ab...

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She's wasting away in storage... when I lived in the bay area I build a 45 from parts, literally chased down springer front end, engine, frame, etc., from different sources and built a running Harley that I rode for some years. rode it on the sunday morning ride from the sausalito heliport to pt re...

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When I was growing up my maternal grandmother used to say we were related the English kings way back when. When I did go to trace my linage on Ancestry I found out my grandmother was right. Richard the Lionhearted, William the Conqueror, Elanor of Aquitaine, Viking kings and Celtic kings but so are...

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furthermore: evolution is not "compatible" with creation. they are TWO DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED THINGS. But facts are convenient things. One fact is that there has not been enough time since creation for all the permutations to take place to evolve anything from one kind to another. Something...

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Hmmmm. If God is lying about that, then how can you believe Him that His Grace is sufficient for you? See what I mean? We're talking about Christ's words. How do you decide which ones are true? It's called Faith..... Sort of like Creationism v. Evolution.....In my mind they are perfectly compatible...

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Hmmmm. If God is lying about that, then how can you believe Him that His Grace is sufficient for you? See what I mean? We're talking about Christ's words. How do you decide which ones are true? For me, I accept his words as true, even when it hurts my feelings, or I don't understand. Otherwise I mak...

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Having said that, I believe that Jews, Hindus, and other followers of God's wishes are covered. Perhaps not everyone had the same messenger? Acts 4:12 and John 14:6 are keys to understanding this. I love your confession of faith. I encourage you to study scripture. It is God's way of communicating ...

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I've done that a couple of times, using the pickup bumper. Takes the worry out of being close.

I like the tip on measuring headspace, thanks for that.

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forging hot steel is therapeutic. steel is a foundation of civilization, and blacksmithing is the core cause of technology. so it's a tie to the distant past, it's cheap to get into. a hammer. an anvil. in africa the anvil and hammer were often rocks. a fire and air supply. some kind of tongs. bingo...

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Confucius predated Jesus. Jesus did not create anything or any one. He was the letter carrier delivering a message not the OEM. Thank you for your opinion Sir. You are incorrect, and I will offer factual evidence for the Truth, because Truth matters. I only contest this because "it is appointe...

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Mescalero wrote:There was no god involved........................ it just happened.

what just happened?

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Booger Bill, not tea leaves at all. DNA is the operating system written by our creator. It is yielding fabulous insight into how amazing the creation is. and enabling people to find out some very specific things about ancestorage. my brother is discovering very interesting family history through dna...

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On Marshall Stanton's site are 3 articles he published on the 444 work he has done. He has groups you can cover with a dime. Well worth the time to read them. The thing that kept me from developing 444 was the slo-twist rate. There is a guy in the big bore section of Marshall's forum that has souped...

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There were Native Americans living quite nicely all over the dang plac No way were they living quite nicely. They were robbing, pillaging, looting, raping, kidnaping, murdering, torturing, sacrificing, and other forms of mayhem, similar to isis in arabia, for most of their entire history. when they...

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jeepnik wrote:Wow, this could easily go off into a .444 (well actually .429, but whose counting) versus 45-70 (well actually .452, ) but I will resist, I will resist, I will resist. Oops, I guess I'm not a strong willed as I thought.

Uh Jeep, that would 0.459

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BAGTIC wrote:
Grizz wrote:yeah they're fun. I like 'em a lot.

are 9mms really prone to pass-thru on home invaders? I hadn't gotten that memo.

Don't need to "pass through". Most shots miss the target completely.

my scots gene makes me too cheap to miss . . . waste not, want not . . .

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here's the link to the parent site:

http://www.leverguns.com/

here's the statement of purpose:

http://www.leverguns.com/about.htm

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tough break. heal fast as you can.

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Barnes 110 gr. TAC-TX bullet. Barnes claims a muzzle velocity of 2350 fps and over 1360 FPS at 400 meters. I assume that is based on a 16" barrel, as I have seen real world reports of around 2200 fps give or take from various hand loads out of an 8" barrel. This is interesting because Bar...

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sore shoulder wrote:Hey Grizz, hows a 160gr cast at 2100fps tickle you?
http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtop ... 41&t=82836

isn't that right at 30-30 performance ? isn't that more than X39?

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7.62 is right about the foot pounds of energy(FPE) thing. FPE has nothing to do with stopping power, killing power, or penetration it is momentum that produces all of those things. if I understand 556, the tumbling frangible bullet uses the momentum to self destruct. it is momentum that gets the 22...

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. . . you get +P .45 ACP performance in a subsonic round from the BLK, with a nearly 3x higher BC that will carry that performance a lot further . . . . . . and a MUCH better SD, which equals a penetration potential far beyond what .45 ACP is capable of. which, it turns out, is actually a problem f...

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Thanks guys, I ordered the Bushnell. No 10% off when I did it. NEXT : what mount do you recommend? I will be swapping this from one chassis to another, possibly even to the 12ga. I don't know how to scope an AR. I put a half-height riser on for the red dot, that worked just right for the pistol and...

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