Thanks for the reply. I'll stick to my current handloaded Sierra #2000's for now. I was hoping some had similar issues and found a solution, but it looks like I'm the only one silly enough to try these things.

Just wondering how members here find the projectiles in the title for accuracy. Maybe I'm alone, but I cannot get these things to shoot in either my Marlin 336, or Mossberg 464 30/30's. I even gave in and tried Hornady factory ammo in both guns with worse results than my hand loads. Both rifles are ...