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Question: If a person were to use a Winchester 94 and a Marlin 336 in a head to head torture test using quality ammunition, which would fire the most number of rounds before breaking in a way that rendered it unable to operate as it was designed to? Why? Although I am more of a Marlin man I must adm...

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My suggestion is to handle each one, buy the one that feels best for you. I have a 44 spl flat top 4 5/8 blue and a 44 spl New Vaquero polished stainless 3 3/4" barrel. Love them both but the New Vaquero is the one that goes with me in a Lee Liles belt rig that has a crossdraw holster. My favor...

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Many of the more valuable firearms at the museum were actually sold off many years ago, too bad. It is still a fantastic place about 15 minutes away from where I live. Before the museum was built the guns were actually displayed on the wall inside a local business about a block from the museum. I re...

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Thanks!

I'll go see my man on Sunday and get the paperwork started.

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I tried a search but did not come up with an answer to my question.

Will a fullsize buttstock for a Rossi 92 fit a RanchHand? Is it a simple bolt on?

Sure would like to have a SBR 92 in 45 Colt.

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Buttplate is checkered steel, has even "bled" into the wood a little. The wood seems to fit the metal very well. What vintage is this Winchester? If I look up the serial number using only the numbers (no M suffix) it comes back 1970. Not sure if the suffix would change that dating or not.

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I just picked up a Winchester 94 saddel ring carbine in 44 mag, serial number 3290***M. It has a 20" round barrel and is blue.

My question is what kind of wood should the stock be made of? I don't believe it is walnut because it has been stripped and is light in color.

Thanks!

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I'll bet it is 1 in 24 or 26"...unless it is a Trapper, then it could be 1-20, 1-24, or 1-38, depend'n. The standard length barrels on the Win 94 chambered for the .44 Mag were different than the Trapper, except for the later model Black Shadow 44 mag, it came with the 1-20 twist. Hope you're ...

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Well, I'll get it on Saturday or Sunday and can check the rifling then. Hopefully take it out to the range in a week or two but it's gonna hafta cool off a little first. If she won't shoot my 300 gr bullets cast bullets I might need to get rid of her. Then it will be Rossi time. I've got an EMF Hart...

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I purchased a 1970 Winchester 1894 in 44 mag from a friend. He will be bringing it to me this weekend but I would like to know the rate of twist now. Anybody know where I can find this info? Thanks if you can help.

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Congratulations! Being a granpa is the greatest thing in this world!

By the way, better buy his first gun right now before somebody else beats you to the privilege.

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I found the fact that my dad became smarter as I got older quite amazing. And then...........it hit me! Sure wish he was still around.

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Place the rifle in a drill press vise in the drill press.

Using a screwdriver bit of the correct size mounted in the chuck, use the drill press to hold down on the bit in the screw while turning the drill chuck by hand.

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Paco also used the same 20 grains 2400 with a 325 grain JHP and JSP. I really appreciate all of your help, guys. Lots of good information. FYI, I am just playing right now with the powder and bullets I have that will work with the 45 Colt. I recenlty aquired this rifle and it is my second favorite i...

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Well Wind, been there done that. On purpose. Don't have the inclination or the funds to try it anymore.

But thanks for letting me know I am not crazy, there are others out there that are curious where the edge really is.

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I have two manuals and both stop long before the level I have attained. Also read Paco's article and it is the one showing super hot loads for a later model 92. I have been creeping up the ladder on my loads and was a little concerned about the level I am at. Don't have a chrono to test velocity but...

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The information for a max load in a 45 Colt levergun are all over the place and are very inconsistant. So, I began loading for my EMF Hertford 92 with a 24" barrel, looking for maximum. With Starline brass, WLP primers, 2400 and a Hornady 300 grain XTP I started at 13 grains and went up. Way up...

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Congratulations and well....................WOW! 20 years ago I would have wondered why you didn't buy one that still had all of it's blueing and was newer, probably stronger to shoot those super hot +p loads. Nowadays, I simply marvel at the beauty of things with honest age that have lasted through...

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For those of you casting your own bullets, what is your total cost per round of handgun calibers and what caliber/ performance level is that cost based upon?

If you could break it down by cost for each component I would appreciate it.

Thanks!

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I use the 300 gr in my 444 also. Real sledgehammer on hogs of ANY size. One of them two years ago weighed 418 and the bullet entered in front of the left shoulder and exited through the right ham. DRT (dear right there!).

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While bullet shopping this evening in diameters 358, 429 and 452 I noticed that Hornady XTP bullets were frequntly less expensive than most, even cast bullets. Why? Is there something wrong with them? I have used XTPs in the past with no problems at all while hunting and practicing. Is there a reson...

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My hands are older than I am and frequently don't work well enough to operate the slide on a semi auto pistol. Same thing concerning the double action on a DA revolver. Recently, I moved to all single action revolvers and and very happy about my decision. I even use them exclusively for concealed ca...

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Yesterday, I aquired a Stevens 235 12 gauge double. It appears to be made in 1921 and, although the bluing is a little thin, is in great shape. Case hardening is still beautiful, barrels (two sets) have shiny bores, stock is tight, not cracked and retains most of it's finish. The only bad part is th...

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To make a long story short, I needed shotgun bead sights with an 8-40 thread for a customer"s Remington 870. I ordered two from Midway and, while I was waiting on the order, drilled and tapped the barrel. The bead sights came in with the wrong thread size. Right part number and description on t...

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If the Marlin pictured is the one you have been trying to sell, I would say your area is economically depressed. I know more than one dealer here in NE Oklahoma that would give you
$300 for that firearm if it works as good as it looks, bore is unpitted, etc. I am one of them.

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Thanks for the many helpfull answers, guys. I actually prefer longer barrels in a 30-30 from 20" to 24".

But this year I have cut 18 30-30 leverguns down for customers and have three more waiting. Not sure why this sudden interest in "trapperizing" a 30-30.

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What I am lookling for is the velocity of a 150 gr or 170 gr factory load out of a 16" barrel. I will then compare that to the published velocity of the same factory load from a 20" barrel.

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I thought this would be an easy answer but have been searching for over an hour. Maybe I just don't know how to effectively use my computer.

Can anybody tell me the actual velocity of a 150 or 170 grain factory 30-30 load out of a 16" barrel?

Thanks!

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The Ruger 50th Anniversary Blackhawk in 357 mag is slightly different in that it is all steel and built on a flat top frame. Also roll marked and gold filled on top of the 4 5/8 barrel. I love mine and shoot it quite a bit. Around here they sell for $425 - $450 new in the box. Prices will likely go ...

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Can anybody tell me if the blue New Vaqueros are all steel or is the grip frame and ejector housing aluminum?

Thanks!

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Two questions regarding the bolt mounted peep sight. I realize the bolt's movement within the receiver is minimal but it does move. Laterally and vertically if viewed from the rear. How much, if any, affect does this movement have on practical accuracy? How does the bolt mounted sight compare with a...

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I want to install an aperture sight on my EMF Hartford 45 Colt with 24" octagon barrel and have a few questions. This rifle is carried for hunting and also used for plinking. First of all, I laid the Lyman receiver sight from my 16" Rossi 357 on the Hartford rifle and it just does not look...

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First, let me say that I only own two 1892s. One is a Rossi pre safety with a 16" round barrel in 357 mag. This rifle is all blued steel. The other is a recently purchased no safety EMF Hartford with a 24" octagon barrel in 45 Colt. This rifle is blue, case hardened (or colored? not sure)....

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I am considering either a New Vaquero or a Cimarron Evil Roy in 45 Colt.

Can anybody give me some insight into the power level of handloads these two can endure on a regular basis? Hopefully slightly hotter than a factory non +P?

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Looking for a 300 gr cast bullet load for an EMF 92 with 24" barrel and chambered in 45 Colt. It will be used for pigs, whitetail, mule, elk and hopefully black bear.

Thanks if you can help.

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Prayer offered. Remember that no force on Heaven or earth comes close to the power and love of God! Think, no BELIEVE, in the positive.

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Sorry, guess I should have been more specific. I am looking for maximum accuracy and velocity with accuracy being more important. Of course, it needs to feed reliably. I already have a stock of Hornady XTPs in 158 grain and would like to use those. The rifle is my "walking aorund " gun and...

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Apparently I am not very good at searching because I can't find an answer to this question.

I am looking for a recommendation for a 357 mag load in a Rossi 92 with a 16 inch barrel using a 158 grain JHP.

Thanks if you can help.

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A TRUE scholar and a gentleman. Maybe a little opinionated but the world would be much better off if he were the standard by which men were judged. Jeff Cooper will be missed by many.

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22-250 is OK. At that range (over 200 yards) I would prefer 308, I believe it still holds the world record in unlimited class. Whenever I shot bench rest competition I used a 6mm PPC. Great cartridge. 222 and 22 PPC were also popular. At longer ranges a heavier bullet will NORMALLY do better than a ...

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I need to sell a few lever rifles to raise money. Can anybody tell me how to ship? Interested in legalities, who will ship (USPS, UPS, etc), best way to package if you don't have the original box?

Any advice will be appreciated.

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Been to "orange" Gunsite, five times for different reasons. Have no hands on comments about "gray" Gunsite but if the opinion of one old pompous, deceased and opinionated man means anything (it means a great deal to me) I would go elsewhere these days.

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Obvious to me is the fact that the ONLY reason to own ANY gun is because you want it. Period. I don't care if you want matching Guide Guns in stainless and blue. If you WANT both of them then get both. I say keep them both until such time as it becomes clear you want to get rid of one or both. No ju...

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Take the time off and make the trip.

Here's another thought for you: What kind of regrets would you have if this friend suddenly passed away a week after the trip?

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The federal gov will never let it happen. To do so would set a precedent that would likely dissolve the US as we know it because too many others would follow.

My guess is that if the Lakotas don't stop that their leaders will either disappear or end up imprisoned on not necessarily true charges.

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Hypothetical question: Marlin vs Winchester

Re: 44 special for hunting

Re: Davis Gun Museum in Claremore, Ok. where Will Rodgers was fr

Re: Will full size buttstock fit Ranch Hand?

Will full size buttstock fit Ranch Hand?

Re: New Winchester 94 44 mag SRC

New Winchester 94 44 mag SRC

Re: Twist rate in Winchester 44 mag?

Re: Twist rate in Winchester 44 mag?

Twist rate in Winchester 44 mag?

Re: Be came a grandfather tonight 1/19/11

Re: way off topic/rant at gun club during lunch

Re: Need a little help here

Re: Pressure signs in 45 Colt lever gun?

Re: Pressure signs in 45 Colt lever gun?

Re: Pressure signs in 45 Colt lever gun?

Pressure signs in 45 Colt lever gun?

Re: My marlin Christmas present for myself:

What are your ammo costs?

Re: Whats wrong with HOrnady XTPs?

Whats wrong with HOrnady XTPs?

Re: Why are single-action revolvers still so popular?

OT - Ammo for old double question

WOW!! Great customer service at Midway USA!

Re: Marlin 336

Re: 30-30 velocity loss in 16" barrel

Re: 30-30 velocity loss in 16" barrel

30-30 velocity loss in 16" barrel

Re: Ruger Blackhawk 50th anniv.

OT- New Vaquero all steel?

Re: Which aperture sight for my 92?

Which aperture sight for my 92?

Is my experience on 92 quality typical?

OT 45 Colt in New Vaquero or Uberti, how hot can they handle

45 Colt load needed for 24" rifle

Re: OT prayer request for me

Re: Load recommendation for 16 inch Rossi 357

Load recommendation for 16 inch Rossi 357

Shipping question