Paco Kelly's Leverguns.com

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I am a WACA member and this coming July will be my 26th WACA Cody show in a row. Likely the single largest gathering of Winchesters under one roof at any one time. While a number of antique gun shows are good (like last weekend in Denver) Cody is dedicated to primarily Winchester. The shows proximit...

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Beautiful examples of what quality products Winchester could offer. Showing a bit of honest use, documenting their experiences through time. Rifles with fancy wood and checkering without pistol grips are kind of a rare bird. Nicely done Kirk.

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Original deluxe 1873 Winchester 38-40 Wcf. It letters as casehardened, checkered, shotgun butt, xxx wood and with the tang sight. Circa 1888.

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KirkD's recent post of his beautiful early casecolored 45-70 1886 reminded me to again post some Winchester eye candy as well. Below is a somewhat later rifle with a blued frame..... it letters to June of 1903.....but it is a pretty scarce example. This one is a 45-90 with a hard to find special ord...

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I was told they were 100 count...but will check.

They are considered collector boxes and bullets....maybe for a 71 collector display.

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A long time Winchester collector friend has found a few boxes of original Winchester 348 component Silvertip bullets in his reloading room. These are new old stock in 100 count yellow boxes. A couple boxes each of both the 200 and 250 gr weights. I have poked around the web looking for past transact...

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With the standard weight and length barrel, the rifle weighs 9 lbs 9 oz. With the shorter rapid taper barrel attached, it weighs 8 lb 15oz. Not a huge difference but the balance point does change noticibly (roughly 2" further forward onto the forend with the heavy barrel). The rifle also does n...

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Tman

I have never had a problem with tang sights hitting me in the eye during recoil.....and I have them mounted on some heavy hitters. I would think that those who have been hit might consider evaluating their shooting technique.

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Pete44ru There is another difference in the barrels I did not mention (also not mentioned in the factory letter...most likely due to lack of space on the factory ledger). The 26" barrel is of standard heft. The 24" barrel is a rapid taper octagon....something that is very rare in a shorter...

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I always enjoy when posters put up pictures of their lever rifles. I thought I might contribute a few pictures of a rather special deluxe 1886 Winchester I acquired a few years back. This take down rifle was very unique in that it was ordered with an extra interchangeable barrel. http://i26.photobuc...

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Here's one I picked up cheap just for some action parts. After bringing it home I found I could not part it out because it just had so much character. The story on it is that is was owned by a ranch hand from a large ranch in California. He had lost his right eye and still wanting to shoot right han...

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Sixgun, Thanks for the info on the silencer. I am going to put something together. Neighbors are not too close but I sure can hear them when they touch something off. They have never complained about my noise but I want to keep them happy. Wish you and I did live closer...., maybe we could do a litt...

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Hey Sixgun

Can you give us a breakdown of the makeup of your silencer and how effective it is? I am been considering building one of those or something similar for a long time.

Thanks,
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A recent acquisition. A deluxe Winchester 1873. 128 years old and still a beauty.

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Here's a rare one:

Winchester 1886 deluxe, 45-70 with a 2" longer than standard 28" barrel in extra heavy configuration. 1888 vintage.

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If I understand you correctly, you are taking your measurements from the wrong locations. Barrel length is measured from the rear of the chamber not the takedown flange. That will add 3/4" to your barrel measurement making it correct. On takedowns, the center of the rear sight dovetail should b...

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If you could get it at 13-16 as Six has suggested, it would be a steal. I do not believe 2000 is out of line. I see them priced more than that everywhere. It will always be worth more in the future. 86's that were bringing 1500 a few years ago are double that and more now. An 86 45-70 lightweight wi...

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I think you will find .405 bullets will give you poor accuracy as the bore of your rifle is likely at least .406 and could be as large as .409 or maybe a smidge bigger. I generally shoot .408-.409" gas checked cast bullets with 5744. For best results you may have to thin the neck of your brass,...

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It is impossible to estimate value without an accurate and detailed description of condition. Detailed pictures would be much better. If the rifle has been altered in any way from original condition, collector value typically falls way off. The Cody letter offers little value other than maybe the co...

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I should have included above, first 30 W.C.F. Rifle - serial number 3314, 5-29-1895

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The first 25-35 W.C.F. Rifle - serial number 5014, 7-18-1895

Happy collecting.

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1st generation Colt SAA, circa 1898. Chambered in 38 W.C.F. Still shoots good!

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Here is a picture of my "pre-A" Winchester that polishing room records indicate was manufactured in 1932. It wears a 20X Litschert scope. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c101/3855/61fc9346-3385-46cd-8b34-53317b213a49_zpsd699f7e1.jpg This rifle can be counted on to shoot 50 yard, 3 shot g...

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I ran into a situation like that a few times. First of all, use a good lubricant. Imperial sizing wax is available at many gun supply outfits is the best I have used. A little of this goes a long way. Good stuff. If the shoulder of the case is what is preventing it from chambering, it needs to be fo...

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I am primarily a Winchester lever gun collector but when a dear friend offered me up this Winchester Model 52 22LR I could not resist. The rifle is a pre-A model, with speed lock, for those interested in those kind of things. It was manufactured in 1935. The period scope, a R.A. Litschert Spot Shot ...

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Here are four, 3-round, 50 yard groups, recently shot with the green mountain barrel in my custom built 10/22. Ammo was SK-Standard Plus. My son and I also built a custom 10/22 for him with a green mountain barrel and results are similar. I have not used Green Mountain barrels in other applications ...

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I came up with a similar design to Marc's a number of years ago after seeing another example somewhere. I used some 1.25" plate for the vice, those mounted on a piece of 3/4 steel that bolts to the table. The 1" coarse threaded bolts do not go through the 3/4 but the heads are embedded int...

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No, Winchester Proof steel was not introduced until around 1930, serial range of 1,080,000.

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My dog Willie. Got him from a animal sanctuary last spring as a one year old pup. He likes going boating. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c101/3855/IMG_2025640x427_zpsb7ddfe1c.jpg Most of all he just wants to be with his people. He loves everybody. A true friend. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/...

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Mostly lever guns... Left to right. -1884 Trapdoor Springfield. 45-70 98% original blue -1874 Sharps in 45 2.1. Factory letter states it left the factory in 1878 -1894 Winchester ring carbine with rare pistol grip stock circa 1908...30WCF -Colt 1st generation 38-40 circa 1898 -New Model 1863 Sharps ...

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You must mean 32-20.

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Back in the mid 90's I started buying a carton of 22 shells every now and then whenever it was on sale or convenient. I kept pace with my shooting and then some. Over the years my supply grew a brick at a time. I never participated in any of the panic buying or hoarding. I have friends that have don...

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I have loaded for in excess of 70 antique Winchester lever guns. In my experience, I have found no real difference between round or octagon barrels. In the older rifles, bore condition, correct bullet sizing and load development are by far much bigger factors effecting accuracy. Also in my experienc...

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For Winchester 1897's, factory data is only available up to serial number 379,999. Data for serial numbers higher than that was lost in a fire at the Winchester plant. Don't believe everything you read or hear. The 38-56 is not difficult to load for. I have formed piles of brass for them from 45-70 ...

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A Remington 700 BDL I bought new in 1970 for $127.50. Hard earned cash from "kid" jobs at the rate of a buck or so an hour. It was first hunting rifle. I got my first deer with it a few months later. Both my sons took their first deer with it too. It has now taken over 50 head of big game....

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There is probably a reason parts were swapped around on that gun. Beware. There are 33's around in unaltered condition that can be had for less than 2 grand. You'll be much happier in the end with one of those. When I started out collecting old guns, I made a pact with myself never to buy a gun I ha...

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For all around use you just can't beat the 45-70 chambering. I have a Shiloh Model 1874 #1 in that caliber that I bought new around 12 years ago after a 4 year wait. It sports a 30" 1/2 octagon, 1/2 round barrel with upgraded wood and a pewter fore end tip. A beautiful piece of American craftsm...

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Mike An old cartridge collector like you ought to have an original 40-82 cartridge laying around. Compare the dimensions of it and your reloads closely. It will soon be evident where your problem is. It only takes a few thousandths out of spec to keep a reload from chambering fully. My guess is you ...

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I have few modern "working guns" for hunting but my interests lie primarily in antique Winchesters and Sharps.
Newer reproductions of old lever designs (other than a Shiloh Sharps or three) are not my cup of tea.

To each his own and all can provide a ton of shooting fun.

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For what it's worth, over the years I have replaced a number of broken original rubber butt plates on early Winchesters with the available reproductions. With careful fitting and doing a little "antique" work on them, they can be made to look very very close to the originals. Like most thi...

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A flat side deluxe....very cool.

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Here is what Cody Firearms Museum has on the serial number of your rifle:

Win. 1894, SN 132337
SN applied: 11-15-1901
Date into warehouse: 1-6-1902
Type: Rifle
Caliber: 30
Barrel: Octagon
Trigger: Plain
Date shipped: 6-19-1902
Order: 133305

Good shooting,

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I knew you weren't serious. I have a friend and fellow collector who knew Snooky personally. He says, just a little tongue in cheek, that when working up and shooting his loads, Snooky had to occasionally stop to wipe away the blood. Why probably not entirely truthful, suffice to say, Snooky really ...

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Mike D If you are going to out do some of Snooky's loads you had better have a stout recoil pad added to your rifle :lol: . As you know, some of them were really top end. I tried a few in my younger reloading days and while the rifles and I survived them, I have long since backed away from them. Wit...

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I'm not sure you can buy those bullets anywhere. NEI however still produces the mould that Sixgun has. Accurate Moulds, a outfit out of Utah, (just google it), has the capability of making any mould you want and can duplicate the NEI mould exactly or with any variation you desire. Turn around time f...

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Mike D Better take Sixgun up on his offer for some NEI 275 gr gc lead bullets. He did the same for me recently when I was load developing for a couple 40-65's and 40-82's. I had previously been having problems getting a bullet large enough to shoot well and still chamber without inside neck reaming....

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I agree with Mike D. Shouldn't matter as long as you stay away from a 50.

Just to be sure, I just ran some 40-65's cartridges through one of my 45-90's. No problem.

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40-82's can be great shooters when bore diameters and chamber throats match up correctly. It will be interesting what you find those to be in your new rebore/rechambered rifle.

Keep us posted how she shoots and the components you use.

Good shooting.

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I make them by sizing down 45-70 brass. It works best if you have an intermediate sizing die like a 40-65 but it can be very successfully done with just a 38-56 sizer die. Lube up a new unfired 45-70 case with some good resizing lube. I use Imperial sizing wax. Run the case part way into the sizer d...

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