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bcraig

Okay nix the suppressor idea ! Buy a chronograph some fast powder and start reloading and shooting ! Nothing gives you result like actually doing it. You have enough information from here to start doing actual testing to find what your looking for. I am eagerly awaiting a report on how your doing !...

bcraig

Working up a subsonic "barnyard load" for general purposes around the homestead is one thing, but depending on the same low velocity load for serious purposes? Not me. Potential poor terminal performance, not to mention possibly sticking a bullet in the bore when you need it most. As stat...

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Buy a chronograph and a suppressor ! No getting around the noise otherwise! Even cowboy loads are LOUD inside. Not any short cuts to get to where you want to go :D Yes I imagine that Cowboy loads are load inside but not as load as Supersonic loads . But even with a Suppressor there is still noise a...

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I shoot 7 grains of unique with a 200 grain cast for Cowboy Action shooting and it Chronos 1020 out of my 20 inch Marlin 1894 in 44 magnum. My guess is that if you used a 250 grain cast instead of the 200 you could get under 1000 fps. Thanks That sounds just like the information that I wanted in ca...

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If I need to fire a weapon inside the house in a self defense scenario, the very last thing I'm concerned about is disturbing the neighbors... wake their BUTTS UP, call the POLICE, I NEED HELP! My future deafness not withstanding... nor am I concerned with earplugs... I want the BEST performing amm...

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You are relatively close to sea level, denser air will indeed change velocities. Develop a nice subsonic load at your house and go visit Steve at 6100 ASL and those same loads will most likely break the sound barrier in thinner air. Thinner air when I lived in Trinidad CO, 6250 ish ASL, I kept my 2...

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Even two guns of the same make and model, bbl length, chambering, etc. may not produce the same average velocity and/or accuracy. I have 6 rifles chambered in 45 Colt, bbl lengths from 17" to 24-¼", none produce the same ave. velocity, even the 3 with a 24-¼" bbl. Highest velocities ...

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Standard pistol powders are formulated to burn very quickly as the assumption is that they are being used in barrels under 6"-7". So, the performance out of a barrel 3 times the length won't be that different as the powder isn't made for a long barreled use. However, magnum pistol powders...

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You seem to be obsessed with subsonic speeds. One subsonic load will ring your ears and another supersonic will sound like a .22 rimfire. Each load combination has a different sound signature and even similar decibel readings can give you different personal hearing experiences. The whole current fa...

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I have always felt that Hodgdon Load Data is as accurate as it comes. That being said, I am curious why you are wanting to stay subsonic with your choice of load? If leading is your concern, go with a harder Brinnell Hardness Rate and make sure the diameter of your lead bullet is .001 larger than y...

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Unique should be very close and it will behave very much the same. I’m not surprised by the small increase in velocity between the pistol and rifle barrels with those powders. But you won’t really know until you shoot it. I am surprised that you were having trouble finding data. I would think that ...

bcraig

You'll never know until you load and shoot them over a chrono. Remember the speed of sound differs due to elevation. That load might by subsonic at sea level but at 7000' in the Rockies it will be super sonic. I do all my shooting at elevations of between elevations 210 to 249 feet above sea level ...

bcraig

I have been looking doe a 44 Magnum or 44 special Lead RNFP or semi wadcutter load using a 200 to 240 Grain load that will be subsonic from the 16 inch barrel Rossi 92. Also Looking for the same type of Loads for the 357 Magnum 1892 that I also have . I have done about a million searches on the inte...

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Youre basically shooting stout-ish cowboy action loads and those guys mostly use the fastest pistol and shotguns powders. Loads with any of the following like Clays, Bullseye, WST, Trailboss, Red Dot and win-231 are all going to get you there more or less the same way. As some of the folks above su...

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Ray wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:02 am https://shootersreference.com/reloadingdata/38-special/

https://shootersreference.com/reloading ... n-special/

HP-38/W-231 is where I'd start if I was starting over. The maximum special loads work just fine in magnum cases if you need the longer cases for proper cycling.

Thanks

bcraig

While others have, I've never gotten good results from SWC bullets, I recommend getting RFN (round flat nose). You'll want flat nosed bullets in the tube magazine of any lever gun, and the rounded ogive of RFN allow smoother feeding. I tend to use RedDot in the larger calibers, I like TiteGroup, CF...

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Lots of powders will work for both. I like Power Pistol and Unique. Power Pistol seems very efficient with regards to velocity for pressure. Unique is just so versatile across the board. I always used Unique in Low velocity 44Mag and 357 Mag pistols Bout 1,000 fps loads and 296 for the firebreathin...

bcraig

bcraig, I had a nice long post nearly finished last night but it was lost. So will try to shorten this one 1. The Lee loader and carbide dies for the listed calibers are good starters. 2. Using a RNFP is the best design for these rifles. 3. The bullet weights you are suggesting to use are probably ...

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JBowen wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 4:09 pm I suggest you also use the Lee Factory Crimp Die. If you haven't already purchased your dies get the Lee 4 die sets.

JBowen

It has been a long time since I reloaded any
I haven't bought any die's yet.

What will the 4 die set do for me that the 3 die set wont ?

bcraig

I am thinking about getting back into reloading a bit. will be for Reloading for my Rossi 92 Carbines with 16 inch barrels. If I do ,Going to be using A Lee Hand press and Lee 3 die set in both the 38 special/357 Mag and the 44/special/44 Magnum I will be using store bought Lead bullets,either round...

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I've got a 12. It's controllable with trap load equivalent but not for much beyond that, at least for me. I like the 2" shells from warwolf. Velocity pretty much the same as serious social loads but just a lighter payload. For instance, 6 00buck instead of 9. The round ball load packs a thump ...

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Ysabel Kid wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:38 pm Given that many of the micro 9's are the same size as most .380's, why not stick with the 9mm? 9mm is a heck of a lot cheaper than .380 ACP.

Ruger LCP 380 is smaller and lighter and thinner than a micro 9.

bcraig

I have one of the original LCPs with the factory Crimson Trace built it. I don't care for the "II" trigger either. It ain't a target shooter, but I never wanted it for such. Even in it's factory-supplied pocket holster it fits in behind my cell phone in my usually-worn T Shirt pocket........

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Ruger LCP Original style with a 7 to 8 pound long trigger pull. I dont want the LCP II with a shorter Lighter trigger pull. Lightweight,reliable,relatively inexpensive. And a Ruger BRAND extended Magazine for 7 rounds in the magazine and one in the barrel.Easy takedown and clean. Similiar to a doubl...

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Ok, so these two were fried at 65 yards #1- Winchester 1892, 24" barrel in 357 mag. Handloaded 140 grain XTP at 2405 fps (avg) This round was hard to capture, it shredded through a 1/4" piece of leather covering a 1# bologna pack and then 6-gallon water jugs!!! It was laying on the ground...

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Pisgah wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:00 am Before you modify anything be sure the gate is properly in place and that the loading gate screw is tight.

Yes it was pretty tight
When I get the Loading gate like I want it I will put a little drop of fingernail polish on the screw

Thank's

bcraig

Walt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:58 am Also, be sure you sand out even the tiniest burrs left by the file in order to prevent cracking of the spring steel.

Thank's

bcraig

Paladin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:10 pm
Tycer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:47 am Thinning. Sorry, no pic.
If you haven’t bought Steve’s dvd you might want to consider it. Get the mag follower and ejector spring too. The machine can operate one finger butter smooth with a little bit of fitting. The dvd shows you how.
https://stevesgunz.com/
+1

Thank's

bcraig

. I bought a replacement for my Marlin from Ranger Point Precision. https://rangerpointstore.com/marlin-loading-gate/ Not sure if they make em for Rossis but they might. I did notice they actually have a section of parts for the 444 Marlin...! They do not but but like most they have a lot of parts ...

bcraig

bcraig, I can understand your hesitation about a non-responsive seller but I would also point out that there are not a 'lot' of other options/sources for these after-market items. The manufacturer in past years has been reluctant to sell 'PARTS' for general repairs. They demanded that firearm be se...

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[ Concerning the Follower and seller on ebay ,I read your post about the follower and asked a question on the post that you made about it ,then I contacted the seller and asked the seller several questions about the follower and the seller sent me a answer about one of my questions But not all of m...

bcraig

Now that combo is 'Sharp as a Tack" !!

bcraig

I had a Stainless 44 Magnum Ruger Blackhawk(with a 4-5/8 barrel (like so many,wish I still had it)that I Round butted after seeing a round butted gun in John Taffins great book 'Sixguns". I used a Dremel and a file (man o man is that Ruger Stainless tough )then reworked the grips and refinished...

bcraig

bcraig, For the gate tension, try making a brass (or aluminum, brass is better) shim for under the spring, something like 0.005 to 0.010". Drill a hole the size of the gate screw in the shim material first then cut or sand the shim to the size of the gate rear portion/stem until it slides in t...

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Normally if spring tension is reduced you remove from each side of springs width NOT thickness. Like how the SAA reduced mainsprings.Thats what I would do,going slow with dremmel sanding drum to a pencil line on each side.Try until you get the feel you want . Afterwards a smooth polish along those ...

bcraig

Normally if spring tension is reduced you remove from each side of springs width NOT thickness. Like how the SAA reduced mainsprings.Thats what I would do,going slow with dremmel sanding drum to a pencil line on each side.Try until you get the feel you want . Afterwards a smooth polish along those ...

bcraig

I visited a few sites regarding the issue and I am curious if you have thought of other solutions to the issue. Most complaints were about the thumb getting cut up on sharp edges during loading. The one issue that I did see that might be semi related was the excessively LONG magazine spring. Most o...

bcraig

Well ,I never heard back from the ebay seller.

bcraig

The Old Amadeo Rossi had a cheaply made two piece flat spring riveted to the cover itself. Mine ,really is pretty soft no harder than the original Winchester. I believe though these newer Taurus are made different . Usually on flat springs you narrow the width not the thickness .that's how the redu...

bcraig

For those who have done this ,how did you do this ?
Bending the loading gate flat spring or thinning the loading gate flat spring ?

Pros or cons for both methods ?

Anyone got any pic's of the modified Loading gate flat spring?

Thank's

bcraig

I like Pie

bcraig

I rarely use it, but my 9422M paired up with my stainless Single Six with both cyls would be the last two I'd get rid of. Ok, I'll keep that LCP, too. Never leave home without it. I had one of the 9422M years ago,really liked the rifle but did not care for the 22 Magnum. I saw it as too much for gr...

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Just changed the mag follower on my new .357 16” stainless Rossi M92. Got one in two days from durango-onlineoutpost via e-bay for $15.95. I also installed their ss safety lever plug which fits nicely with no gap under it. This company is great to deal with and their products are first class. Troop...

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Just changed the mag follower on my new .357 16” stainless Rossi M92. Got one in two days from durango-onlineoutpost via e-bay for $15.95. I also installed their ss safety lever plug which fits nicely with no gap under it. This company is great to deal with and their products are first class. Troop...

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Pat C wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:52 am Dunham in Elkin WV shows in-stock in store only

Dixie has RWS $45 for 250 count

Thanks Pat ,I will try calling CCI

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Pat C wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:38 am Sportsman Wharehouse has them in stock Ashville NC location. $5.99 per 100

Thanks Pat but I just called and a guy went and looked twice for me and both times he said they did not have any

bcraig

Now ,if I could Just find some Remington #10 or CCI #11 Percussion caps that weren't as high as a cats tail ..... They are not "high" ... your money just is not worth as much as it used to be so it takes more of it. You just have to work at adjusting your view of it. I know it's hard. I'm...

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I have the Rossi 357 Magnum and a S&W Nickel Plated 586 which I bought back in the early 80's I like having a few guns that shoot the the same shells. Or 1 gun that can use different shells like the 4-5/8 Great Western 45 Colt convertible with a 45 ACP Cylinder or the Glock 26 gen 3 that I carry...

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This looks like it would work pretty good, could make one easy. 8) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siN3jWrTvX8 Yep that is pretty neat ! We use to use a coffee cans and put a roll of toilet paper in the can and soak it with alcohol,made a good hand warmer for a long while. a Zippo works pretty food...

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I wonder why I cant seem to find any Remington #10 Caps anywhere in stock It is my understanding that CCI makes the Remington and the CCI brand,and time for the run they make for the year to be in the stores. This cap shortage and inflation of cap prices is rediculous. Everyone and their brother has...

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