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Beautiful job! +1 focus on making it look older, although the other (dark "blue") example looks great too.

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Shooter, not to proliferate this OT, but I don't think that's what Eastwood meant (the idiot comment). I would agree that not every idiot should have one (such a collection). Doesn't mean you or I, and I don't think he was intending to be elitist. There are a lot of "idiot" gun owners (wie...

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No Booger Bill, I believe he's referring to a different product. A few hundred dollar premium over their stock "P" (SAA clone) model)--at least in Cimarron speak--at most, street price. They are actually quite nice, but I've also had the question of "how deep" (I think just super...

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I would not pay more for an AE, but sans safety and in the condition you describe it is a fair price and I would not normally expect to may much lower than $425-450 in any event--at least pre-haggle if any. $500 is not a scalping by any means. I know folks will chime in saying lower's possible, and ...

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Anything in the mid-to-late 4xxxxxx and greater range of the still pre-safety/pre-AE era do a fair Pre 64 (+/- 15%) immitation. $350-450 pre-haggle. Some pretty nice ones out there, some LNIB.

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The 92 was strictly a "pistol length" action (yes I know, the .44-40, .38-40, etc were technically "rifle" rounds in their initial gestation, and *then* became pistol cartridges).

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+1 to the idea/spirit/concept in the letter. Even IF you grant the tang safety as a given (hopefully without the rebound hammer--are those two inter-dependent?), I'd still also like to see all other Pre War SRC elements incorporated. I don't see Uberti, Chiappa, etc., entering into the mix what with...

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Between the two? .44 Mag

But seriously, .30-30.

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I think you've got that down. If pistol caliber, I vote for the '92 first, Marlin 2nd and Win 94 third.

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Bear in mind I'm fosusing on Winchester designs here as they're my greater familiarity/preference; Marlins may suggest other considerations--but could be substituted in most circumstances discussed. It'd actually be a close call. My initial thought is .30-30, if considering any serious hunting (or e...

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One of the most glaring--because the whole show's co-star is the rifle--is Lucas McCain's '92 in 1880s New Mexico. One of my favorite shows nevertheless. I see they're careful to never--that I recall--refer to it as a '92 at least!

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Revealing the sadist in me guess, but I could think of some even worse fates for the colonel, so that part was a little disappointing. (As masterfully as that role was played, I'll bet he's going to have to watch the typcasting very carefully after this movie!) I was hoping for an even more brutal c...

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As others have said, it will be interesting to see what they've done. Can't wait for Nate's, Jeff's and others' test drives. I understand the functionality, but the flat shotgun butt with recoil pad on the carbine is unfortunate and an anachronism on a '73 anyway...If I want comfort, I'll goof up a ...

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Pete44ru, all of the Rossi trappers I've seen (and had) over the years have also been round barreled/carbine butted--including the LSIs. However, the Chiappa-made LSI (and other Chiappa distributors') 92 "trappers" to date have been truncated rifle configuration--butt and fore-stock and ba...

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...And most (or at least many) of the new "Pumas" you see on the market are still new-old-stock LSI Rossis of yore. Steve, I hope the Chiappas (also imported by Cimarron and Taylors for a few years now) do make your suggested internal revisions, as they are beautiful guns. Love the carbine...

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+++1 to DPris. Geezopeet

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I liked it well enough also though the special effects (war and other scenes) were unfortunate and a distraction from what could have been a quality epic piece. I like Jackman and usually Kidman, but thought she in particular over (or under?) acted. Not equating the two otherwise, but similar disapp...

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I've shot my friend's and recoil is negligible--even the heaviest loads (he had on hand, which were fairly warm)... as you might expect from a small bore'd large frame Vaquero. The downside, yes a very heavy gun with seven small holes--a lot of steel left--fore and aft.

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In general agreement about letting most slide. Unintentionally bad grammar or spelling is tedious, hear vs here, sed vs said, than vs then, etc., especially when the rest of the gent's/gal's sentense (:-)) proves they should have known! Here's another one, caliber vs cartridge (when the "other&...

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40s. Ingrid Bergman 50s. Grace Kelly 60s. Natalie Wood 70s. Lauren Hutton, Jill St. John, Jaqueline Bisset (Airport, The Deep), Jennifer O'Neill (Summer of 42) 80s-00s Cindy Crawford, Connie Seleca--ageless--Elle McPherson, Olivia Newton John (70s--00s) 90s. Teri Hatcher (Superman era) 00s. Jessica ...

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1a). Colt SAA if you can afford it (about $1150-1300 blued vs nickel). +1 these "4th" (late 3rd) gen Colts are as nice as they've made in a long time. 1b). USFA Pre War (about $1150-1300). 99.5% copy of early 20th Century 1st Gen Colts. .5% part is slightly larger cylinder (visually imperc...

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I've got a 1917 SRC that's great, and a covey of 1954s, plus two late post 64s (as noted, when they'd finally started to improve) ca 1979--a standard carbine and .30-30 trapper that are right up there as well, but without the better Pre-64 wood ("ok" but...). I'll echo that the Pre AE BBs ...

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...I intentionally left the Single Six out above my above post because no one is making or converting them to my knowledge. LK LK, unless I missed your meaning, all the big Ruger customizers are quite popular with their Single Six .32 H&R/.327 conversions--Bowen, Gallagher, Clements, Harton and...

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Nate, regarding the 92, that's sad to hear but what I feared. Here's hoping Marlin will introduce a .327 patterned after its 1893 saddle ring carbine (which did a darn good Win 92/94 SRC imitation from butt to ladder sight to fore-stock)--complete with carbine butt, saddle ring, slim fore-wood, acco...

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Half bob in my Az yard

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+3 straight wall case improvement. I'd like a 92 also. Hope the case isn't too small for the 92-type loading gate/port, as I'm a traditionalist (on the old lever designs) and don't care for the tube feed as seen on the H&R Marlins and aborted (never to market) Taurus lever. But...whatever it tak...

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I view my S&W Airweight .32 H&R Mag as my BUG to my K/65 .357 and .40 auto. That said, I would not have confidence in its BUG role if I didn't also think it could (and does) suffice as occasional. "primary" such as a CCW and/or "light" carry/traveling companion. Would I r...

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Never, ever corner one. They say there is nothing in the North American animal kingdom like a threatened bobcat. Also is said that while in a hypothetical fight between a bob and a mountain lion, the lion would technically have the goods to "always" come out on top (size/weight, power) but...

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SAA Jim, good catch. It is indeed www.trailcreektrade.com - wonder how that happened! Good guys anyway. Really like your Rodeo--similar to mine. Really adds character...a completely different gun to behold IMO.

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Try Trade Creek Trade Company - http://www.tradecreektrade.com - good fellas to deal with. I got an out-of-production NOS .44 Special Rodeo for about $500 NIB this past summer. Great to deal with. Also our very own Gary Granger of both USFA and http://www.frontierclassicfirearms.com always has the s...

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+1 XTR in 7-30 Waters one of the very nicest 94s of the USRAC/AE era. Don't forget that a limited number of .44-40s were also made, don't recall when--but were Post 64 era.

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A couple of people have posted positive comments about their 7.5" SA in .45 or .44-40 and therefore seemed to generalize regarding this length. There is a whole world of difference in felt weight and balance between those big bores and the .357 with all that extra metal surrounding 7 comparativ...

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My opinion is that you're going to find the 7.5 very heavy. The .357 in 5.5 is no lightweight, so... I understand the "Cavalry" appeal, but my vote goes for 5.5" max.

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+1 to what Hobie said. In my Single Six, a great trail gun and all around popper. In the Smith Airweight, I do not feel undergunned carrying six 100 gr Georgia Arms HPs in a CCW or BUG role. Is it as "hot" in one-shot devastation as my .357? No. Never expected or billed to me as. Neither i...

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I don't think you are being unreasonable at all, but maybe you can get with Nate (NKJ) to help you figure things out in a more timely manner. He had a few small bits on the Chiappa 92 that bugged him early on, which at the time he replaced with Rossi bits (!) Don't know if Chiappa rectified things y...

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I reckon you'd rather we keep our experience and opinions to ourselves...?!? That would make this board pretty boring, wouldn't it. He can do whatever he wants. I just gave him another view of the matter. ----- You're absolutely right. The problem is, he didn't ask "what do you guys 'n gals th...

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It's amazing how the gent asks where and how to do something he wants to do, and folks try to talk him out of it! Like someone saying they want a .357, period/no other context, and everyone chimes in how it should be a .45! I'm one of those (more of us out there than you think) that like the things,...

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"Great shape" with patience can fetch upwards of $1,000 or even $1,200 (eventually) even in this economy. SRCs (we're talking Pre Wars of course) seem to have a somewhat logarythmic curve. From fair/good to very good to great is about 25% jump each step, then to truly pristine can just abo...

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To the ocelot post, it used to be (and maybe still is) said that the ocelot was one of the few wild cats that had the potential as decent, relatively trouble-free pets--not to encourage anyone! Some say none of the cats (or other predator species) really ever are completely free of risk they'll turn...

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I got a 92 (Rossi) trapper with more of the "Rifleman" (even larger, more circular) style loop, and swapped it over to a standard 20" 92 carbine because I just had to have one that looked just like Lucas McCain's (the loop did nothing for me on the shorter trapper). I do have to admit...

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I'm thinking about changing my wood out also, but a different approach. As far as I recollect, the original Win 94 (and 92) trappers used the same forend as the 20" carbines--what we now call the "long wood" (I.e., pre '50 forend) I've actually toy'd with transforming my ca '79 trappe...

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When I was in college, my folks had half bobcats (the other half being mix of Maine coon, Persian and tabby)--bred in the Az desert by family friends (don't recall how they came upon the full bob). Great cats, twins. Due to the bob and Maine coon parts, they were great hunters. They ate regular cat ...

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In the words of Charles Barkley, "turrble, just turrble." Chilly @ 4O-42 early this morning, expected 70-72 here in the Az desert. Cold front coming in that might knock it dow to the 30s/60s. We did have a spate of very chilly (for us) around the holidays--the first big front that hit the ...

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+1 on the Rossi and all the comments about Nate. He can either set you up with one--with a little or all his fixin's, or another fine gent to buy from is Philip (Joel) Rezak, who sells the EMF (aka Hartford) 1892 variant. Rezak goes by Ultona or Ultoona (forget which) on GB, and his name in Gunsamer...

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I'm with a lot of other folks here "just because," shared/simplified ammunition and different tasks (for general tramping - I don't worry too much about individually optimized loads). Low in the desert, a sixgun and carbine paired in .357 is usually all that's needed for two, four and no-l...

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Those that have said attitude is everything are right. I didn't invent that notion, and certainly haven't been perfect about that in my life, ...but when I have and gotten my head straight, things have found a way of working out. And even then things may not be all roses,...But one thing's for sure,...

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+1 to the Pre War 94 SRC, specifically appx pre mid-1920's (I.e., carbine butt, ladder sight on most)--with options for those wanting shotgun butts and semi-buckhorn sights--just as you could special order in the old days. 2) 92 SRC, adding .357, .44 Mag and .45 LC. Only #2 on my list since Chiappa ...

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Cimarron's manual should be close enough. I didn't realize they were Chiappas. http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/Manuals-Forms/Manuals-Forms.htm ----- Cimarron and Taylors started importing 92s (their first btw) a few years ago from Italy--made by Armi Sport/Chiappa...And Legacy Sports (LSI), which ...

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I don't own a Uberti, so don't know...but I was wondering if some--including Uberti--have been measuring just the outside (apparent) barrel length, as on a "real" Win '73 it measures 19-1/4", with an extra 3/4 "hidden" to the end of the threads for an official 20". I ha...

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Sounds like a dandy fate to particularly befall an early post-64 M94 mess. Can't screw it up any more, there's zero real collectibility value otherwise and bound to be a 1000% improvement. I'm thinking of having a 1911 done, a prospective DW CBOB...just can't abide the stainless--not a SS guy on aut...

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