Paco Kelly's Leverguns.com

Catshooter

Malamute,

Those are great pics of some great guns. I've used the one of your 29 as computer background for quite a while.

What caliber is the 94? What loads do you use for your grouse shooting?

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Catshooter

I understand just what you mean. On the other hand, after casting bullets for more than 40 years I found the CastBoolits forum. In the five year since I have learned more workable truths and unlearned unworkable stuff than in the 40 previous years. I've also learned plenty here that I didn't know be...

Catshooter

As to why no 45 Colt in a lever in the old days, I don't think anyone really knows why. If I was going to guess I'd agree with AJ. But I have never seen any kind of documentation one way or the other. Has anyone seen such a thing? AJ, I have read that your Cowboy Special brass will fit in Taurus rev...

Catshooter

Mmm. Interesting. I have two 94 Trappers in .45 Colt and they are my go to rifles. Both my wife and I aren't getting any younger and weight is important. For my wife who thinks she's a 19 year old 350 pound Amazon Warrior but in reality is a 120 pound 50 year old delicate flower the weight and simpl...

Catshooter

Very good report Bob, thanks.

It's really a shame that Paco's book on levers is way out of print. I have a copy and it is packed with good round ball data. He even loads some to over 2400 feet! He of course does a lot with the cat sneeze loads too.

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Catshooter

rb, Very nice set up. A couple of points for you that I have learned over on the CastBoolits forum. Frosty bullets shoot and perform the same as not frosty. Water on top of your melted lead will not be bad. It's when water gets under the surface of the lead that the tinsel fairy can visit. The water...

Catshooter

There is also quite a bit of bullet energy absorbed by the bullet itself when it expands.

If you want a bullet with lots of penatration, cast 'em. Cast out of linotype or some such will give little to no expansion and will drill.

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Catshooter

I always go for double my wage. You can come down if ya need to!

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Catshooter

Shows you what bad leadership can do doesn't it Steve.

Have a great time.

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Catshooter

While we weren't looking (well, some of us anyway) there sprung up in this country quite a few places that instill a deep hatred for America. If you watch for it you can see it in many people that are very strong liberals. My sister is one so that's how I came to see it. Doesn't matter, white, red o...

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One of the things I have learned over at CastBoolits is that I've got leading nine out of ten it's something I change change with the bullet. To clean leading go to a store like WallyWorld and get a copper "Chore Boy". Cut off a strand or six and wrap it around your brass bristle bore brus...

Catshooter

Dixie Boy,

I live near Clearwater. I've been casting for more'n 40 years. If you want help with getting started let me know.

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Catshooter

Some guys lack mechanical skills. Know your limitations.

On the other hand, if you can, casting your own and then loading them can save you tons. Even with the cost of equipment.

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Ranchdog will be selling those dies when he gets them in stock. Ani't selling 'em yet though.

jerryb,

Yep. You're obviously in deep trouble.

I take your point though. If'n it ain't broke, why are ya fixin' it?

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Catshooter

Are you kiddin' me? There arefactories that make cartridges?

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Catshooter

Sixgun,

What do those Lugers go for these days? My old man used to have one exactly like the one you pictured. He sold his for $300. In the sixties.

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Catshooter

A .375 cast round ball? They weigh about 100 grains.

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My RCBS Uniflow is what I use. It meters Universal Clays like the measure is empty. Can't tell any difference. I use a Piggyback on top of my Rockchucker for pistol ammo. I check the powder level each time I change the primer tube (100 rounds) but it's a boring exersize as I have never had it change...

Catshooter

Pointy bullets in a lever to me means you just load two, chamber, magazine.

Doc, I think you'd enjoy Paco's book on Leveractions. He discusses quite a few wildcats from small to pretty big.

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Catshooter

Six rounds in forty years . . . I'd say she's 'bout plumb wore out.

Very nice. I read once that a man is as rich as he has friends. I can tell you ain't poor.

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Catshooter

No thought as to why Winchester sold seven times as many levers than bolts I suppose . . .

Must be wonderful to know everything.

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Catshooter

I have found over the years that I prefer either long, or short. This works out for handguns and rifles. It's not a cast-iron rule, I do love my Marlin twenty two inch .45-70. But my baby is a 94 in .38-55 with a half round 26 incher. It does hang nicely for offhand work. Or my other baby is a 94 Tr...

Catshooter

I would agree with OSOK at least in my limited experience. However, there are those on the CastBoolits forum who would disagree. Some are getting 2400+ fps with plain base bullets. However the only way to know is to try it. Every gun, every bullet, and particularly every operator is different and th...

Catshooter

That's a good point Jack. That's why I don't look for powder so much as look to see how high the powder is in relation to the case mouth. Might not work with bottlenecks unless the powder was way up high. Only bottleneck I load for is the 225 Win and the powder comes up into the neck so it's easy to...

Catshooter

Very nice. Where's the pic of the rifle though?

Can't help you with 2400. I've only used AA 2230. Thirty grains under my cast Lyman 375449 (284 grains lubed & checked) gives me about 1750 fps. Very, very accurate. My sighting in group at 150 yards was an inch and a half.

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Catshooter

Wow. That's disgusting.

Hobie, pay no mind to those who get torqued off at the process. You can't please everyone, ain't gonna happen as we all know. Thanks.

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Catshooter

You guys! How could you miss our own Paco's Leveraction book?

I know it's a rare one. I bought one and I ain't aletting it go. Good book.

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Catshooter

That's great Jeep, but where can we get one?

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Catshooter

The .30-30's parent case (.38-55) is a very versitle one. Quite a family. The 219 Zipper, .25-35, .30-30, .32-40, .35-30. Did I miss any? That's quite a range of capabilities. I have one of the H&R single shots with a few barrels for it. I have one in .30-30 and one in .38-55. One I really want...

Catshooter

The .30-30's parent case (.38-55) is a very versitle one. Quite a family. The 219 Zipper, .25-35, .30-30, .32-40, .35-30. Did I miss any? That's quite a range of capabilities. I have one of the H&R single shots with a few barrels for it. I have one in .30-30 and one in .38-55. One I really wante...

Catshooter

That can be a true statement. My brother's rifle has a very heavy barrel, with a .626 bore the outside muzzle diameter is over an inch. Then he filled the buttstock bolt hole with lead shot, so the rifle weighs in at about twelve pounds. Too heavy for me, but he likes it. It seems to kick about as m...

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My brother's bear rifle is a 20 gauge NEF. Load is three .641 ball over a charge of Blue Dot. Runs about 1000 fps, each ball weighs 392 grains, so his payload is 2.7 ounces per shot. Mag-Tec all brass shells. They print an inch and a half triangle at 25 yards. Mind you, this is really a rifle. Heavy...

Catshooter

Look at the cylinder length, I bet it's a BFR. And it probably matches the Marlin in .45-70. Least it would if'n it were mine!

Nice set ups boys.

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He was buried at sea . . .

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I don't know if your parts are casehardened or hardened through, sorry. Gunsmith Rule #1: Always file/stone on the cheapest part. :) I think that if one or more of the parts are into soft steel, then the trigger pull will degrade rapidly, once it's being used under full spring power. In my experienc...

Catshooter

Don,

Joe is correct. Hammer fit can be overdone. Of all the millions of levers out there, few have tightly fitting parts/hammers.

I'd say go for it yourself. Get in there and do your best. I bet it'll work out fine. If not, it can always go to a 'smith and get fixed.

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I've bought two used RCBS progressive presses over the years. Each time, they both needed a handful of parts to make 'em go.

Called RCBS and even told 'em the truth, they still wouldn't let me pay, not even for shipping.

It's why my loading bench is Green.

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Catshooter

getitdone, Every sentence you posted was the truth. I'm not a gunsmith or a machinist, but a bit of home taught both. And have done a fair amount of both trades, at home and for a living. A genuine good gunsmith will definatley do a far better job that you can usually get from a manufacturer. "...

Catshooter

Even at .002 clearence you'll find plenty of wobble. If I was doing the work, I'd start with a reamer that's .0005 over the very nicely finished & polished screw. Then go to .001 over if it was needed.

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Catshooter

Good posting Joe, and I agree. Any company can let a lemon through - and they all do. It's what they do about it that counts to me too.

Now if they'd just get rid of those foul locks . . .

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If you want to learn more about casting, go here:http://castboolits.gunloads.com/index.php If you spend a few weeks reading there you'll be far in advance of 99% of all the rest of the casters in the world. Remember this rule: Every bore is a rule unto itself. It will serve you well if you heed it. ...

Catshooter

3leggedturtle wrote:I have a 16" Puma 45. It hits where you look. Just got a 45 Blackhawk keep it company.

And hit darn hard, too.

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Catshooter

I've been to Lakeland about three of the last four of their shows, allways free parking. Nice show.

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Catshooter

I'm for Tampa. Never been to it before.

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Catshooter

KCSO wrote: The kids sort of teased me about the leverguns for a while but after outshooting them a few times they learned to keep quiet.

That made me laugh, I love it. It is results that count, isn't it.

I have a Trapper in .45 Colt that I had Armalloyed, it is my go to also.

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Catshooter

Thanks Grizz.

Probably too long for a Super Blackhawk, I suppose.

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Catshooter

Grizz,

Can you tell us where one can get a 405 grain mould for the 44 please?

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Catshooter

Indeed. That the .45 can be loaded to some serious power doesn't mean it has to be. I mostly run nine grains of Universal Clays in the Colt for both sixgun & rifle. runs about 1200 feet out of the Trapper. Pretty much does it. Now if I were using the Trapper for silhouette that'd be different. T...

Catshooter

"Why some claim the the 45 Colt is more versatile than the 44 Mag?" 'Cause it is Steve. :) I don't know that it is actually more versatile, but you can get more power out of it. The case is bigger, and in vehicles of the same strength if you load both to the same pressure levels of course ...

Catshooter

Out of my 26 inch 94 in .38-55 I push a Lyman 375449 to just about 1750 or so. Gas checked. I use straight wheel weights. I use this weapon for lever action silhouette and clean it at the end of the season, not during. Cleaning it changes the point of impact a lot. So I clean it about every 500 to 6...

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