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Luckily, there are still some good, older 94's to be had.

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Sarge, Congrats on the carbine. I love it. But, it ain't broke, why fix it? Put a receiver sight on it, and use it. Why go changing the wood and barrel sights? As it is it's perfect, you can't hurt it by using it. I know, it's yours and you can do what you want. But, I was just asking. Joe You have...

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Thanks, guys. You may be right Pokey; I've seen the factory aperture sight holes on a number of post-64's. The edges of these holes are pretty sharp though, and I would have expected factory D&T to have had a mild chamfer. Pokey is in fact correct & the original post (and blog) have been cor...

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You're right bsaride, and that'd been fine if he'd followed through. Heck, I like tackwork.

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You know those pics you’ve been seeing of my wife, shooting my Rossi 92? I knew I had kissed that rifle goodbye, when I saw how well she handled it. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x187/SargeMO/Peg92.jpg Aside from the obvious benefits of getting your wife out shooting with you, sharing your sho...

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580 Series Mini 14. read here: http://sargesrollcall.blogspot.com/2008 ... html#links

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Well, at least it wasn't a Winchester. Y'all had me skeert when I saw the title.

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I charge the case, LOOK inside it to confirm charge height, and then seat the bullet. Every time, regardless of the cartridge, load or powder. One of the joys of reloading is economy, which means folks are going to use powders that produce the most reloads per pound. These loads are just as safe as ...

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Thank you for your welcome! I'll try the 231 load you recomend, Joe. Never used 231 for some reason. Next time I'm at the gunshop, I'll pick up a pound. What's your estimate of the velocity for this load from a 16" barrel? Hey Rowley, I have chrono'ed 7.2 of W231 & a MO Bullet's 250 RNFP f...

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Rowley Sims, Welcome to the forum. I'd suggest 7.1grs of Winchester 231 under a 250gr bullet . I have a 16" Trapper .45 Colt and from the Trapper that is a very mild load. It is a very accurate standard pressure load, but sound and recoil are all but non existent..... Joe I'll second that...bu...

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I hate to fiddle with sights, Ed. I am obsessive about precise, dead-nuts zero for a single load with every gun I own. http://sargesrollcall.blogspot.com/2009/08/importance-of-zero-i-shot-quite-bit-on.html I go to great lengths to accomplish that and I consider ALL sights 'fixed' once they're zeroed...

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I've used roundball loads in the old 30 WCF for nuisance critters and occasionally, to ease women and kids into the centerfire rifle. These I single-loaded.

Otherwise, I shoot full-power loads in the old girl; to stay sharp with my hunting loads more than any other reason.

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I think the point here is that a lesser amount of focused, results-driven practice beats hell out of just slinging ammo downrange with no specific purpose- and no goals for improvement on the part of the shooter.

That is an absolute.

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Thanks, Buck. How far off would you say the windage was, in inches, and were they both off in the same direction?

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Buck- did your Stampedes shoot pretty close to the sights with standard weight bullets to, say, 25 yards?

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Another noob question: What's wrong with the stamped "F" and "S"? :?: What do they stand for, anyway? That's for "Fling" or "Sling" as it applies to your options in launching the freshly-removed idiot switch into the nearest brushpile, dungheap or landfill; d...

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So what kind of 100 yard groups are yall getting with your preferred powders? Roughly what should I expect of my rifle? I don't shoot much at 100 yards these days unless I'm trying to improve my offhand shooting. I'm locky to be able to test loads at a tad over 200 yards and never leave the place t...

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A man ought to have both, or at least a 30-30 & heavy sixgun in .44 or .45 caliber.

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.22 Rifle: Ancient Marlin 60 that still runs flawlessly 'Real' rifle: 30-06 in a Remington 78 or 7400 'Fun' rifle: .223 in a Mini 14 (580 Series) Jack Of All Trades: .30 WCF in a 94 Winchester Intermediate Pistol: Glock 23 with .40 loads from 700 fps (lead SWC) on up* Jack Of All Trades: .45 Colt in...

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Looks like it'd make a dandy head-knocker.

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H4895 has given me the best combination of factory velocity & excellent accuracy, among the numerous rifle powders I've tried in this cartridge.

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It always cracked me up watching the old series Gunsmoke on TV. Marshell Dillon would be riding from Dodge City up to Hays City and in the background was a most impressive mountain range. I have been all over western and central Kansas and I have yet to stumble on that mountain range. Me too; good....

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What is boils down to for me is that everyone has their own style of shooting whether it be at the bench or whether it be hunting and it is not for anyone else to determine if one guys style is any better or worse that the other guys. Now safety has to be considered but if a guy is shooting safely ...

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Bill_Rights wrote:Sarge, When you said
the basic .45 Colt, especially loaded with a good SWC bullet, can do about 90% of what we can ask of a beltgun.
what did you mean "beltgun"? Maybe a belted magnum rifle cartridge?

Bill (semi-Noob)

As in "worn on the belt", Bill.

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You're welcome Old Savage & thank you. Some years back I took a fit of loading the .45 Colt heavy- real heavy. I find these days I can accomplish anything I need to with factory duplication or 'second gear' Ruger loads like the HS6 load mentioned above. I do keep a few 335 Keiths loaded hot on h...

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Here's Linebaugh's essay on the heavy .45 Colt, if you haven't read it: http://www.customsixguns.com/writings/dissolving_the_myth.htm If you scroll to the bottom of the page to his personal loads section you will see a "HS6/260 cast" load which I have used with satisfaction. That load gene...

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They are indeed strong. The limiting factor on mine seems to be its cavernous chamber because with really heavy .45 Colts loads, it stretches brass worse than my Vaquero. Still, it handles 300+ grain Keiths at 1350 without complaint and those will shoot through a whole lot of critter.

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Add me to the list of folks who are anxious for the range report. That's a beautiful little rifle.

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I have used the 30-30 with round-ball loads on small game and pests, and with 150 grain WW factory loads, it is fully up to swatting deer out to 235 yards. For me there would be no contest; the 30-30 would keep its place in the stable.

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Personally, I don't see what all the noise is about. If you know what a person is talking about, who cares if it's "proper"? Same here. As long as I can understand the meaning, I'm OK with it. This is after all America or it was the last time I checked. When I find unintelligible gibberis...

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I'll give those ladies their due; but I am fortunate in that I don't have to look further than across the room for a beautiful girl who not ONLY puts up with my vices...she enjoys them as well!

Keeps me busy reloadin', though

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At least I've not yet heard of a lever-gunner sending a brand new, unfired rifle off to be customized and "improved" before they even shoot it the way some folks o with M-1911's. Talk to some SASS folks; they'll spend more money on their guns than I would on a pickup and trailer, then the...

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My thoughts on the terminology issue are simple.

When Ruger called the later version the New Vaquero, the made mine the 'old' one by natural extension.

Beyond that I'm inclined to call something I paid for, whatever I want.

Anyhow mine has the bigger frame and will take the heavier loads.

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If you want to do a little tweaking of loads, &c., the adjustable sight Blackhawk will do you a very good job. If you're going to settle on a "one-and-only" load, consider an original Vaquero. You can't break one with a hammer, and the fixed sights are as rugged as you'll find on any ...

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Well, I may have to switch to the brass bead.... Joe, I get perfectly good results with my other rifles by holding "on" - I don't think that's the issue here... my brass bead sights to go "oblong" in the sunlight - I'm beginning to suspect that is the major cause of my situation...

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Well there is a state owned public range about 15 miles away but it is unsupervised. There are too many idiots that go there and shoot at anything with no regard to anyone else. I really makes me nervous if I am shooting at 50 yards and some one comes in and starts shooting behind me at 100 yards. ...

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I can't answer your question with authority OSOK but I can tell you that until I got usable sights on my 16" .45 Colt, I was sending ammo downrange at 100-200 yards and getting more questions than answers for my trouble. Like you, I wasn't going to settle for anything short of a 300+ grain SWC ...

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COSteve wrote:
....I think a better candidate for it would be a Rossi M92 clone with the much stronger Win '92 action....

In this I agree...I prefer the handliing and smoothness of the Winchester pattern, hands down.

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Well gentlemen, the reason I'm asking specifically about the Beretta 92 ask is this: Mainly, I need a new pistol of some sort for "general" protection and plinking as I've recently sold my S&W 317 that I carried with me in the woods...and my wife has claimed my compensated Rossi .357 ...

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To the original question, I'd say 'yes'. If I needed or wanted a .32 for all around use, the .327 would do it as well as anything. The chambering is versatile and will permit the use of several other cartridges; I won't belabor the advantages straight-wall cases other than to add my name to those wh...

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I've seen several dozen 92's run hard on police ranges, with various ammunition including lead-bullet reloads by the case. They are among the most reliable conventional autos you can get; any of them were accurate enough for 50 yard head-shots on a B27 or B21E. My favorite was a 92G Centurion I owne...

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I kind of like the Rio Grande, assuming it's not cluttered up with 14 safeties that can't be removed. It sort of puts me in mind of the older Mossbergs, which were excellent 30-30's. If you really think the Mossberg leverguns were "excellent" .30-30s..., Rossi has just the gun for you... ...

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I kind of like the Rio Grande, assuming it's not cluttered up with 14 safeties that can't be removed. It sort of puts me in mind of the older Mossbergs, which were excellent 30-30's.

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If that was mine, I'd just have a 3/8 dovetail cut ahead of the band and replace or remodel the existing band.

I don't claim to be an authority on Rossi dovetails but my first suggestion would be to try the Marbles folding leaf rear sight, referenced and pictured earlier in this thread.

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Just an update on the .500 tall bead with the Marbles folding leaf, on the 16" M92 in 45 Colt. I've now shot probably 60-70 rounds three .45 Colt reloads, which see a lot of use in my sixgun. They are listed below with the chrono'ed velocity from the Rossi- *a Sierra 240 JHP at 1550 fps over H1...

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I have been a Sam Fadala fan for years...excellent writer whose work is far to sparse in the mainstream gun media.

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I know there are some .357 disciples here but if hunting deer or bigger is anywhere on your radar, get thyself a .44 Mag or Old Vaquero/Blackhawk in .45 Colt and be done with it. Next item of course is a lever-cranker for the same ca'trige. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x187/SargeMO/VaqnPuma.jpg

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The 16" .45 Colt will get your attention with 335's at 1350. It's not a 'make you puke' kind of recoil but you can tell when it goes off.

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Perhaps I should have been clearer. Brownells part # 579-105-031 is in fact the Marbles 50W .500 tall front sight, with a 1/16" gold bead and the oddball 17/32" (13.5mm) wide dovetail base that fits these rifles. I like the finest bead I can get on any open-sighted rifle and if there was s...

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Just an update...I did some measuring on my 16" 45 Colt and determined that .450 might be a tad short to correct its penchant for high shooting. So I ordered the Marbles 50W from Brownells, part # 579-105-031 and installed it this morning. That broke it from sucking eggs and a few quick offhand...

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