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Do they come in red flannel?

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OK my 2 cents. I would much rather have one good solid hit than 15 really fast misses. One of the stages when I did my qualifying for the Maricopa county SO. was to shoot (on target) 12 rounds in 25 seconds from a revolver loading loose rounds. Not many semi-autos being carried then (ya I'm old). My...

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Neck tension is what holds the bullet in place, a flare keeps it from shaving lead.

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Was just blessed with my 13th grandchild a few weeks ago, bought her a Henry 22 youth model. I'll probably not be around to see her shoot it much. Enjoy that little sweetie Nath.

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And its really bad because, I knew half/way through reading that , I was just gonna heat up a can of chili.

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Well, you;ve been given some good info, I'll only reinforce the fact that "fit" is king in cast. Alloy comes in second place in my opinion, as I have run cast (proper alloy of course) to 2100fps +. There is no one step answer for your problem, slug your barrel, check your alloy, and enjoy ...

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OK two things happening here, a guy selling guns out of need, and some good gunsat a good price. Let me know if you decline for either reason
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23 to 25 gr of 2400 will put you in the "trapdoor" range and 24gr. gives me 1385 fps out of the 26" bbl which will stop most anything that needs stopped.

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I have a Browning and Rossi's, I prefer the Rossi cause I can enjoy the strength of a 92 action in a gun that I can modify to suit my needs with out worrying about value.

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I use a LOT of 4198. Generally with 400 to 500 grain bullets, But I find good consistancy and good performance with cast loads.

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Well sir, Terry probably gave you the best answer, but you know (sounds like yer somewhat familar with the 30-30) that there are lots of loads available for the old 30-30. The answer to the longer range is "get sneaky". I've made 20 yd shots with a 45-70 because I could, never apollogised ...

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I killed my first elk with a 22 Rem. single shot, ($16.00) killed the last one with a Ford F250 ($46,000), pick somthing in between those two that you are comfortable shooting, learn to hunt ( get close enough for a good shot), put the shot where it counts and enjoy your meat.

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My standard plinking load is 23 gr of 2400, but for what you're looking for I'd suggest 7/9 gr. of Unique ( with a 250gr. lead bullet) or try some of the Red Dot loads. ( I dont ues them but there is ample info available)

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Slug your barrel and see what fits. As said before, a good fitting bullet (boolit) will reach those velocities with a softer alloy, and give better expansion.

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Win. didn't offer the 35 Rem. because of the boat. They missed it

I love my 336.

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Over the hill? Shucks Jim, that thing was a full blown mountain with snow on top when he was a pup.

Happy birthday Terry

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Ok I'll chime in here. I've killed elk with a 22 and had yotes run off after being hit with a 375H&H.

The best gun or load is the one that you can shoot and gets the job done.

Chivo, for a lighter load 30-30 I like 15 to 18 gr. of 4198 under a cast boolit. Try it you'll like it

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Tutt, the best bullets are what works in your gun.
For me it's cast, (with all the hair pulling necessary to find the right formula) with cast you can tailor, weight,hardness,nose type, etc.

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If you get a wide meplate cast for your 44 traveling 1200 fps or so in 240gr or up, you will have no problem putting a hog down (shot placement of course). I like my 30-30s, but if I'm gonna get in the close brush with somthing that might eat my leg before I can eat his, you can bet I'm gonna be car...

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OUTSTANDING !!

Grandpa's have a special connection with grand-daughters, we let them do things thier parents wont.

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Cute little booger aint it. You do good work.
I've got a couple 45s I need to work on but never seem to find the time. I just shoot em and cuss em.

You done yourself proud there, thats a fine looking piece.

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You intentionaly ruined a piece of 35 brass ?!!!!

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Sorry no pics, me and photo bucket aint on speaking terms.

Pete, I do it on my press.
stick the 40 in its proper shell holder, screw the die in and pull the handle.
If it wasn't easy I'd have never done it.

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I sold 18 guns once to pay some family medical bills, it took a long time to get them replaced.
Eventhough I still had plenty left, I buy each gun for a reason and found I missed the "unity of the group".

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Not trying to steal your thunder Pete, you do pretty work. I was just telling what I've done as another option. 40S&W brass is the proper dia. for a 357 follower. By usin the 44/45 expander to create the sholder you can increase or lessen the amount of shoulder as needed for proper length. It to...

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Thats pretty neat, but you have more ambition than I have.

I simply take a piece of 40S&W brass, run it in a 44 die to expand the neck, and stick it on the spring. Use the plastic follower to determine how far to expand for starting point.

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Yes,I bought one. I bought the cheapie model because thats how I do things. :roll: I found little difference through the marlin. The Henry"s showed enough improvement to pay for the tool. What was surprising was my 35 yr old Browning, (which is my base for 22s, showed improvement) Buy one you w...

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Been doin just that experiment lately, I could "get by" with 2400 and H4198. Wouldn't necessarily be purty but I wouldn't suffer much either.

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Shoot a few boxes through it and you'll forget how long it been.
Nuthin feels better than goin shootin, except shootin well.

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This is the wrong section, but yes , BP is not a steel friendly powder, hence the frequent cleaning of guns is necessary.

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Jim
I picked one up one time but never got to shoot it.
It's kinda sad to think of all the guns that pass through our hands and think, what if.

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Tycer, he will probably never shoot it.
A quick search I did showed ammo around $32.00

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Joe, they know if they destroy our history, they destroy our country.
The love of God, freedom, and fellow man is what made this country. If we lose the founding principals can our nation be far behind?

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OK I think I've been had. When he called and asked if I'd like to have the 94 in 307, I thought he had bought somthing he did'n like (this guy works for me and bought his first gun abought 2 months ago). Come to find out he had located this gun somewhere, naturally I told him to go get it, he had fo...

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Good for you.
I've lost a few guns that way, but it's worth it.

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It was offered at $350 in very good condition. Gotta make a phone call

Thanks guys.

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Got a call asking if I was interested in one, I think he said it was an XTR.
I've never seen one. Anybody have any info?

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Got my tool in the mail today, wasn't sure what to expect.
It took me 20min to get the rubberbands off it

but after looking it over, I now understand the thought process behind it.
I tried it out and it works great, easy and fast. Ya do good work Paco.

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A guy that works for me has been talking about guns for six months, he has never owned one a wanted a good all-around rifle. I steered him toward a marlin 30-30 which he bought. Then after months of describing what to look for, what has collector value etc., he goes to a small town flea market and f...

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I wish I knew what my dad was thinking when he saw my pictures.

Tell him WE are proud of him

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Some may remember my unhappiness over a buy from the AA site. I bought a supposedly "mint" gun only to find it had some problems. Well, I've spent considerable time on it and it's still giving me fits. Week before last I had a quick trip home and achance to shoot, I had 3 different bullets...

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Paul, that would be funny if I didn't have some that looked like that and was too ashamed to talk about.

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Just sent Paco a check for an acurizer. I remember as a pup my dad fed us many time with a 22. I get carried away somtimes with them big ol boolits, but if I got a critter in the yard at night I grab a 22. I've been buying them high dollar bullets that cost more than reload 357s. I know a 22 will ta...

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Yep, you're right, I've bought about 2500 rds. of the cheap stuff.
I need a tool. gon2order

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I would proly go with the 22, I've seen the Henry17 and I like it, but still...............

por nada

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WOW, you paid HOW much?

Tell yer wife that if you shoot 2000 rds a year for 10 years your gun only cost you about 2 1/2 cents a round to use.
Where else can ya have that much fun for less than a nickle.

I tried it once, it kinda worked.

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Got er done.

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Tough question. If it were a only two live off the land thing, it would be a Ruger 22 MK 1 and the Marlin 45-70. You can't cover much more ground than that.
If it were a 15min. jump and run.......probably a 357 SA, a 336 30-30 an some stuff you don't want to know about.

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Dont know a whole lot of folks there since my people are from Farmington or Tyrone, but I know quite a few runnin horse people over there, let me know if I can help you get in debt.

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