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Looks like the motion sensor idea has been covered. Regarding dogs, I have learned it is best to train one really well, bond with him, and then get him/y'all a little friend to be an apprentice. Our Malcolm learned his job from the late, great Buddy, and the now-elderly Malcolm has passed on his kn...

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I have a question about anvils... are they made of steel and carefully heat treated? Or are they iron castings with a heat treated surface? Is there something special about their metallurgy? When I was a kid the Empire mine in Grass Valley sold off its complete blacksmith shop for $200. I begged Dad...

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http://empresspublications.com/stuff/front.png http://empresspublications.com/stuff/rear.png After shooting some 405g loads from this petite and shiny hideout gun I decided to put the peep back on it. I shoot better with this kind of sight. The rear sight I whittled out of aluminum a long time ago,...

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Good post. Fun to see who we see eye-to-eye with. I would like to comment that we're talking about a leveraction .308 here. Same bullets will work in a 30-06 or 300 WM. How cool is that?

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Great post. I'm curious if you've thought about smelting cast iron and aluminum and sand casting them. Could use a similar furnace oriented up and a crucible... http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/index.html http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/oilburners03.html http://www.angelfire.com/pro2/jason_fo...

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Thanks for posting this video, Grizz. We need to know more about the threat and determination of this enemy of religiously and politically free people, things that our government and cowardly "free" press aren't telling us. In fact, we are in a profoundly ideological and violent fight, wh...

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If you can give about a year advance notice for a hunt like that I'd sure like to hunt with one of my children. How would you price 2 hunters, one animal?

Anyway, I imagine there's lots of locals who can use the meat, it's the best.

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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103

it's about a religion of ...

it may only be available here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8312745410

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My Mom was born and raised on a farm somewhere around there. Kind of a dna thing I guess, I feel some connected too.

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I love country that looks like that. Looks like a good place to ride horses too.

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It's so good that the department of homeland security has informed our enemies that pilots are not armed during takeoff and landing. No need to wait for the plane to get into the air to take it. Good thinking.
Stupid pond-scum-sucking-parasites.

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No way, that's what the left does. We don't need no stinking leftyisms around here to be civil in our disagreements. We just need positive peer pressure. Call BS when it gets personal. I can disagree with you without calling you any names or impuning any of your relatives, I just attacked the idea t...

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AK-47, Everyone should own at least one. There's a u-tube video of combat in Iraq that shows at least 3 of our guys aiming AK-47s at the bad guys. I guess they got tired of trying to chuck .22s at 'em. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlNORX006-c&NR=1 If it's good enough for stopping bad guys the...

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Some of the nastiest posts have come from the religious folks. Mostly not youngsters (well none, really, as far as I could tell). Of course Christians are sinners too, well, at least the ones that dont get translated. Our fortune is having those sins forgiven. The real problem is some peoples sins ...

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Officer Cesar Quitana patrols a dangerous barrio in Juarez, Mexico. He is armed with an M16 assault rifle -- a weapon that would be no match in a gunfight with drug lords. "I think most of us feel scared just to bring this with us," he says, pointing to the rifle in the front seat of his ...

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I like Junior and appreciate his knowledge. But I gotta say one of his favorite tricks was to post outrageous political propositions that he knew would blow up like a keg of black powder. I think he thought it was fun. I sure did, and I took the bait every time. I can't give a man who insults half o...

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I'd use someone else's shoulder. I think you're right. I love Handi's but I think that thing is going to really get your attention. I've thought about getting a Buffalo classic barrel for mine, but I'm just not sure. Rusty, I regularly shoot 525g cast out of my buffalo classic at around 1575fps, no...

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I've used H322 and Re7 under the 525g cast, 2400 under the 425g cast, and trailboss under the 325g cast. I've shot all these loads out of my H&R.

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... For the dead-on hold to work both eyes have to be open and the bead superimposed over the picture generated by both eyes. ... That only works if you actually have binocular vision... I don't. :wink: I use Peep & Post. (bisecting like Hobie) Too dang much Mitary Training. OK that makes sense...

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That is so close to the truth it isn't even funny. I know there are a FEW exceptions, but in general I respect those in the news media far less than I respect rapists and murderers, because the latter group only harms one person at a time, and you can 'cure' them legally with a dose of lead. Americ...

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Tycer, did you d&t your receiver? I think I'll use a williams, I prefer the aluminum material... Sturgis96, I had a tang sight on my '86 but took it off because of the way I handle and grip the gun. I just don't enjoy having the tang sight on it. Once I get the receiver sight I will try a green ...

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Grizz, Do you want to pick it up for me? :wink: I'll kick in some gas money :P If I recall it was around $800 which is why I didn't jump on it. Now I'm thinking I should have grabbed it. At the time I figured I could just get my 26" barreled Cowboy shorted and still be ahead. Now I'm not so su...

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LA is on the ocean, lots of room to the west. Lots of inland cities are on navigable rivers, head downstream. My boat will be a centerboarder and could be pulled across land when there's ice and snow cover the same way heavy stuff used to move overland, like a big sled. But it's mainly for getting t...

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I don't know how many small craft sailors are on this forum, but to me a boat is the ultimate get-away. It's a camper, transportation, shelter, food-gatherer, and isolation all at once. Not too big, shallow draft, able to operate at any location and hide out from fuel guzzlers. A lot to think about,...

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I guess I'm in the minority, I've always used a bead and sight it dead on. Just seemed more natural, and faster, to put a round bead into the center of a round hole. Of course, 99.9% of my shots are under 100 yds., and it's all game shooting. With the Williams Firesite , the bead is so small it rea...

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where's it at? how much $? what's the phone #?

thanks,

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I've always held the bead dead on, "the bead is the bullet". I've never shot at such a long range that the bead was an obstacle to what I was aiming at. But I use a very fine bead. I've plinked out to 400 yards this way and didn't think the bead was too large. On my single shot I have a gl...

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The Chrony F1 is very reliable. I've had mine for a 3 years now. Paid about 50 or 75 bucks. The LED is not lighted, so I have to use a highpowered flashlight to see the velocity numbers at a roofed range. Otherwise, if I am shooting at the covered range with other folks, I have to wait for the &quo...

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Amen and Amen

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Easy, my 100++ year old Mauser 98. That's fit AND finish. The stock is detailed better than the metal on some modern guns. There are not a lot of guns that I pick up that I can honestly say have better fit and finish than the old '98. It's my benchmark. I'm sure the same can be said of a 100++ year ...

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Amen from the Grizz tribe...

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Grizz, that same cavitation bubble technology is supposedly being applied to torpedos. Apparently, they are rocket propelled and rely on a specially sized and formed meplat to form a bubble within which they travel at extremely high speeds. I would think that a similar (perhaps smaller) meplat on t...

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[tongue-in-cheek]If I were a dem I could vote again for the Winchester as being the best, but since I can't the poor 'ol lowly lonely Winchester ranks at the BOTTOM and was VOTED OFF by the Foreign Idols.

I can't believe it !!!

:( [/tongue-in-cheek]

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:idea: :!: - I wonder if the results have to do with the SPEED OF SOUND IN WATER...? Also what effect the bullet shape has - is meplat a factor? Interesting thought, but the 45/70 load is supersonic also. Eventually I'll get around to testing my .44 405g subsonic hand gun load and see how it does o...

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should not effect the value, the blade sights were made to file down to zero the user's loads.

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Tycer wrote:Unique.

is there load data for all the guns Frank mentioned? in all the various bullet weights?

it seems that pressure tested load data is what's hard to get..

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winchester the old ones

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Obviously the 50 BMG is in a class by itself when compared to our herigage hunting/defense arms. I think it's important to remember that while the 50 BMG can penetrate some armor and some pretty thick steel and some pretty thick walls and any number of cars, that 45/70 bullet just goes splat when it...

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I totally agree with you Frank. The same applies to 338s and 375s and 300s and 270s. Great for what they are designed for, which I agree isn't killing water jugs. But in my mind they all share the same problem at point blank range. And they all give stellar performance doing what they're designed to...

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Does this mean my 50 cal Sharps shooting a 725 grain round nose lead slug will penetrate further that a 700 grain slug out of a 50 BMG? ole pizen slinger I think it will. Calls for a test. Line up the jugs and centerpunch 'em. Make sure the camera doesn't get soaked. I think it might penetrate even...

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My service provider doesn't allow youtube, so I can't see that video. Can you tell me what the correct answer was? (I was hoping that the 45-70 with its slower bullet would beat out the 50 BMG). Kirk, The .50 seperated and the steel core stopped in the 5th jug. The 525g 45/70 stopped in the 12th ju...

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Doya thing the copper got shed on the first jug? I would say the steel core went off line and down or maybe cuz it doesn't have the BC of a lead projectile it just gave up like throwing a styrofoam softball? I know it seems that way but I saw one on t.v. where they shot big [?] abt 25 liter jugs an...

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Well, since y'all been such good sports, here's the real deal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375afd5BMuA&feature=related Stunning isn't it? For comparison my PileDriver load is Marshall Stanton's 525g bullet over 39g H322. It chronos about 1475fps out of the guide gun that took this shot: http:...

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What's your bet? My PileDriver penetrated 12 Jugs, recently someone got 13 with a little greater velocity.

So what say you, how many jugs will the 50 BMG kill, hmmmmmmmmm ???

Answer to follow after sufficient rumination and conjecture by y'all. Good luck.

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It is a great scene. Only problem I have with it is there's only one hole in the bucket. On the first shot they blew out the backside. And that's the only hole in it thru the two following shots. If I'd made the movie, I woulda made the hole count right. Small nits, I know, but I notice that stuff. ...

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Yeah - those Sharps are really cool, but I was trying to see the fence in the background - no way was that a wild hunt. It was still good shooting by the hunter. I didn't see a fence, but that animal could have stepped over it. There's lots of fences on BLM land. Doesn't impede traffic flow, just k...

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For what it is worth... after much experimentation and trials - I have switched to Lil'Gun for my .357 hotter loads from 2400 I have too. Still get primer flow on all primers. OK, can someone clarify this please? A large firing pin hole can contribute to primer flow too. So is it possible for it to...

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Leno observed "half the people want it in euros and the other half wants it in pesos."

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Thanks to everyone for helping keep this topic alive. It's the week of Christ's Passion and Ressurection. I know I get my jaw torqued and grind my teeth and say a lot of rough stuff, but none of it amounts to sand in light of what Jesus did for us. I'm feeling it, and I sincerely thank you for shari...

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