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by collector444
Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:47 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

Glad it's going to Al Springer! You wont be sorry with his workmanship, or his pricing. He's the best in my opinion. I'm very much looking forward to getting this back together. It really is a nice 1899 and someone loved it enough to do what they did, so I'm just finishing it the right way... Can't...
by collector444
Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:54 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

I concur with Keith's thinking that the buttplate is indeed the original, and modified after it left the factory by a owner or gunsmith. The bolt of course is not chromed, but is the typical bare metal bolt used on the Savage 1899. The stock hollowed with two holes isn't what Savage did, which adds...
by collector444
Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:48 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

I'm kind of hoping that when the Cody letter arrives I'll find that mine was actually requested as is by the original buyer. I'm ok with a full restoration and I'll send the lever and butt plate out for case coloring. Worst case and the stock was replaced and not hollowed properly, I'll live with i...
by collector444
Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:47 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

I concur with Keith's thinking that the buttplate is indeed the original, and modified after it left the factory by a owner or gunsmith. The bolt of course is not chromed, but is the typical bare metal bolt used on the Savage 1899. The stock hollowed with two holes isn't what Savage did, which adds...
by collector444
Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:44 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help - Again !
Replies: 1
Views: 214

Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help - Again !

Hey all ! I just added 2 more 99s to my collection, but there are 2 areas of interest that I'm confused and curious about and was wondering if one of you Savage savvy members can help me with this: 1. One of them, after removing the side mount Pachmayr tip-off scope mount, shows only "Savage Mo...
by collector444
Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:33 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

The hollow on most buttplates was for a cleaning rod set. The rods were segmented, and the buttstock usually was a large enough hole for the segments, plus a couple brushes. Marlin did these as a special order in late 1800's, but they bought the buttplates from Whitney when they were still around. ...
by collector444
Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:11 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

The hollow on most buttplates was for a cleaning rod set. The rods were segmented, and the buttstock usually was a large enough hole for the segments, plus a couple brushes. Marlin did these as a special order in late 1800's, but they bought the buttplates from Whitney when they were still around. ...
by collector444
Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:38 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

The stock (wood) could be original (with the exception of those big holes that were drilled in it). The large holes drilled into the back to hollow it out likely removed the stamped serial number that was located on it. Here's an example of the stamping on an 1899B produced in 1899. So where might ...
by collector444
Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:22 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

The stock (wood) could be original (with the exception of those big holes that were drilled in it). The large holes drilled into the back to hollow it out likely removed the stamped serial number that was located on it. Here's an example of the stamping on an 1899B produced in 1899. So where might ...
by collector444
Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:21 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

Thank you for that ! I will reach out to him after I get the letter from the Cody museum. I'm still baffled why if someone was going to go through all those lengths to do a restoration, why the would not hollow out the stock properly for the correct butt plate or case harden where needed. Either wa...
by collector444
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:08 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

Collector, I'm very glad you posted and shared the pix, questions, and answers here! And a 26" .30-30 should be a real pleasure to shoot, not to mention a reliable killer of anything that needs killin'! Thank you for that ! I might take her to the range... Maybe ! Not sure I want to disturb th...
by collector444
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:58 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

I concur with Keith's thinking that the buttplate is indeed the original, and modified after it left the factory by a owner or gunsmith. The bolt of course is not chromed, but is the typical bare metal bolt used on the Savage 1899. The stock hollowed with two holes isn't what Savage did, which adds...
by collector444
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:27 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

I concur with Keith's thinking that the buttplate is indeed the original, and modified after it left the factory by a owner or gunsmith. The bolt of course is not chromed, but is the typical bare metal bolt used on the Savage 1899. The stock hollowed with two holes isn't what Savage did, which adds...
by collector444
Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:34 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

Thank you ! I suspected that no matter how well a safe queen was cared for, brass and chrome would tarnish. I found it interesting that the butt plate would have the serial number stamped into it. Whoever refurbished it did a fantastic job and clearly spent time and money to do it. The question now ...
by collector444
Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:01 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

Looking forward to find out what you hear back from Cody. One other thing I noticed. Compare the condition of the screw on the butt plate to the condition of the buttplate ... another indication that the butt plate was reblued. I will share what I find out. I'm thinking the butt plate was custom or...
by collector444
Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:12 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

Thank you !

I figured it had to be refinished for a 119 year old rifle to be in the condition this is in.
I was very excited to find this and I can't wait for the Cody museum letter to find out a little more.
I will post this on the other forum as soon as I can.
by collector444
Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:16 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

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How the stock is hollowed out
by collector444
Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:15 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

All the levers on the 1899s were case-hardened with the exception of special order nickel plating. The only factory-blued levers I am aware of were on late 99Cs from approximately SN B400000 stating about 1974. If the lever is blued, that is a clear tell that it has been refinished. I have not seen...
by collector444
Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:52 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

Some more pictures
by collector444
Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:50 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

All the levers on the 1899s were case-hardened with the exception of special order nickel plating. The only factory-blued levers I am aware of were on late 99Cs from approximately SN B400000 stating about 1974. If the lever is blued, that is a clear tell that it has been refinished. I have not seen...
by collector444
Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Re: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

AmBraCol wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:32 pm As mentioned, pictures (especially good quality ones that show detail) are a big help in analyzing a firearm's originality if it's not in hand.
I agree, I just haven't taken any yet.

I will and then will post them.

Thank you !
by collector444
Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:20 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help
Replies: 41
Views: 2896

Seeking Savage 1899 Expert Help

Hi all ! I'm a new member and thank you for having me. I just picked up an 1899 in 30-30 at a gun show because it seemed very unique. It has a straight grip rather than a pistol grip, outside of a tiny chip in the butt stock, the stock and forend appear to be in nearly perfect condition, it has a co...