BURRIS FASTFIRE ON A 92

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

Ok,
Got er done. I used the Novac mount and modified it. It still sits a tad higher than I like but the cheek weld is much better than the other setup. I haven't put lead down range but as scopes on leverguns go this aint too bad, ya think?

[Rimfire McNutjob]

I love the compactness of the Burris and Dockter Optic holo-sights. Looks good forward mounted on that 92. Excellent work.

[2X22]

Son of a gun!

2x22

[J Miller]

Steve,

I've never used a sight like that. Please educate me on how it works.

I love that rifle. One like that in .357 would be a hoot to play with.

Joe

[76/444]

Nice set up! I did about the same with a XS scout mount and a Bushnell TRS-25, with double ghost ring back-ups. I think this type of forward electronic sight,... although a step away from the traditional,.... truly have a place with the levergun of today. Now that these types of sights are down to a few ounces, with thousands of hours operation with a single battery, ... early sunrise, late dusk, or in the middle of the night use is possible with a super lite and dependable package.

Oh, by the way,.... reeeeeeeal nice looking lever gun you got there!!!

[Blaine]

Do you find that faster than a big @zz ghost ring?

[AJMD429]

I noticed that one of our Puma's has a drilled and tapped hole a couple inches rearward of the rear sight dovetail...you can't see it unless you take off the elevator from under the rear sight.

Is that on all Puma's (what's it for, anyway...?)

Could it be used to help stabilize a sight like yours?

After depth-gauging it and measuring the barrel, there's only 0.025" of metal between the bottom of that hole and the bore, which makes me want to fill it in with epoxy and a filler-screw, unless I can put it to use.

[76/444]

Do you find that faster than a big @zz ghost ring?

Don't have BIG @ZZ ghost rings,... I used a XS rear ghost on the action, with a Kel-Tec ghost on the front of the XS scout rail. I have a dominant eye focus problem I have to work around and forward mounted sights work better for me. If I could figure out how to post pics here I would. Such is the the life of the puter incompetent!!


Oooops! Yes, I find the red dot a lot faster than ghost rings,... and as said, they work in low light conditions which is my primary need for it.

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

Steve,

I've never used a sight like that. Please educate me on how it works.

I love that rifle. One like that in .357 would be a hoot to play with.

Joe

Hi Joe,
It's easy. First dis-regard the front sight you see there. All it does now is fill the dovetail. To use this sight just turn it on (switch is there on the left side) then just through the gun up to your shoulder and put the red dot on the target. As 76/444 said, it works well in low light plus you don't have to align with a front. For targets up close you don't even need to center the dot in the screen. It's a really fast setup too. With both eys open and on target it really easy to transist from the target to the dot just by moving the screen into your field of view. BTW, this is a 357m.

I noticed that one of our Puma's has a drilled and tapped hole a couple inches rearward of the rear sight dovetail...you can't see it unless you take off the elevator from under the rear sight.

Is that on all Puma's (what's it for, anyway...?)

Could it be used to help stabilize a sight like yours?

After depth-gauging it and measuring the barrel, there's only 0.025" of metal between the bottom of that hole and the bore, which makes me want to fill it in with epoxy and a filler-screw, unless I can put it to use.

Some but not all of the current guns have it. I'm not sure if they will continue with them or not but they were D&T-ed for scout scope rails.
It looks something like this.



Or this. I cut the rail short for this red-dot.



But as you can see they set really high if you use that rail and cheek weld is awkward. Rossi even sold a rubber add-on that you screwed to the top of the stock to help with the cheek weld. (Ug-LEEE)

The whole idea of going with this FastFire was so it could be mounted low on the barrel.

[Barcelona Rick]

NKJ....Don't know anything about these....how do do sight this in the first time ??

jumbeaux

[76/444]

I think I figured out how to do a pic. Here is my rig,.... I just got back from shooting and thought I would try.


I up graded and cropped the pics.

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[Nate Kiowa Jones]

NKJ....Don't know anything about these....how do do sight this in the first time ??

jumbeaux

You do it just like you would a scope. It has W&E adjusters on it just like a scope. (even comes with a tiny screw driver) Start out with it bore sighted. Shoot to paper at about 25yd. Make any corrections then move out to the distance you plan to use it. For this gun in 357m dead on at 100 would be my goal.

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76/444
How is the cheek weld with it that high? If it's awkward it looks like you has some sort of butstock wrap. You could add a pad under that wrap to help.

[76/444]

NKJ....Don't know anything about these....how do do sight this in the first time ??

jumbeaux

You do it just like you would a scope. It has W&E adjusters on it just like a scope. (even comes with a tiny screw driver) Start out with it bore sighted. Shoot to paper at about 25yd. Make any corrections then move out to the distance you plan to use it. For this gun in 357m dead on at 100 would be my goal.

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76/444
How is the cheek weld with it that high? If it's awkward it looks like you has some sort of butstock wrap. You could add a pad under that wrap to help.

You are very astute Sir!!! I had a injury to my dominant right eye a few decades ago. Can not get a good focus at close distance . So I take all my stocks and cut down the comb so I can lay my head over far and low enough to use my left eye,... rather than train myself to shoot left handed. That is why you see the comb as low as it is.

[76/444]

NKJ....Don't know anything about these....how do do sight this in the first time ??

jumbeaux

You do it just like you would a scope. It has W&E adjusters on it just like a scope. (even comes with a tiny screw driver) Start out with it bore sighted. Shoot to paper at about 25yd. Make any corrections then move out to the distance you plan to use it. For this gun in 357m dead on at 100 would be my goal.

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76/444
How is the cheek weld with it that high? If it's awkward it looks like you has some sort of butstock wrap. You could add a pad under that wrap to help.

As to the suede wrap you see,.... I hand stitched that on to cover the 2" neoprene cescent recoil pad I made. I have always wanted a crescent butt recoil pad, but could never find one,... so I made one. I like the stronger shoulder position from a crescent shape, especially for lever guns. It also has helped with muzzle flip, since cutting her down to 16.5 inches, and carving some wood off, she has lightened up a bit.

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

NKJ....Don't know anything about these....how do do sight this in the first time ??

jumbeaux

You do it just like you would a scope. It has W&E adjusters on it just like a scope. (even comes with a tiny screw driver) Start out with it bore sighted. Shoot to paper at about 25yd. Make any corrections then move out to the distance you plan to use it. For this gun in 357m dead on at 100 would be my goal.

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76/444
How is the cheek weld with it that high? If it's awkward it looks like you has some sort of butstock wrap. You could add a pad under that wrap to help.

As to the suede wrap you see,.... I hand stitched that on to cover the 2" neoprene cescent recoil pad I made. I have always wanted a crescent butt recoil pad, but could never find one,... so I made one. I like the stronger shoulder position from a crescent shape, especially for lever guns. It also has helped with muzzle flip, since cutting her down to 16.5 inches, and carving some wood off, she has lightened up a bit.

Well, that makes sense. Shooting right handed but left eye dominate a little extra height in the red-dot won't hinder you at all. You're getting like maximum chweek weld, too.

[76/444]

NKJ....Don't know anything about these....how do do sight this in the first time ??

jumbeaux

You do it just like you would a scope. It has W&E adjusters on it just like a scope. (even comes with a tiny screw driver) Start out with it bore sighted. Shoot to paper at about 25yd. Make any corrections then move out to the distance you plan to use it. For this gun in 357m dead on at 100 would be my goal.

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76/444
How is the cheek weld with it that high? If it's awkward it looks like you has some sort of butstock wrap. You could add a pad under that wrap to help.

As to the suede wrap you see,.... I hand stitched that on to cover the 2" neoprene cescent recoil pad I made. I have always wanted a crescent butt recoil pad, but could never find one,... so I made one. I like the stronger shoulder position from a crescent shape, especially for lever guns. It also has helped with muzzle flip, since cutting her down to 16.5 inches, and carving some wood off, she has lightened up a bit.

Well, that makes sense. Shooting right handed but left eye dominate a little extra height in the red-dot won't hinder you at all. You're getting like maximum chweek weld, too.

Yup,... I like a strong cheek contact to a fault with heavy calibers, and when I took this comb down I did it 1/16th of an inch at a time, checking at every carving to make sure I took off what I wanted, but not more.

[Gun Smith]

That is a nice clean looking setup, and no extra holes either. I might try something like that on my collectibles as they could be returned to original at any time.

[76/444]

That is a nice clean looking setup, and no extra holes either. I might try something like that on my collectibles as they could be returned to original at any time.

Yup !

[Ysabel Kid]

Looking forward to seeing a range report on that puppy!

[madman4570]

Boy I like that!

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

That is a nice clean looking setup, and no extra holes either. I might try something like that on my collectibles as they could be returned to original at any time.

Well, not exactly. There is actually two dovetail slots under the FastFire. To build a stable platform for the 454 guns (this one's a 357m) I cut a second dovetail slot behind the Rossi slot. This back slot has the FastFire adaptor which has two threaded holes in it. The Rossi slot has an adaptor I made with one threaded hole. This provides a three point connection in a "T" configuration.

If you look close in these two pictures you can see the wide FastFire adaptor across the barrel. This one forms the top of the "T". The single screw adaptoR I made forms the verticle part of the "T".