Marlin 1894C in .357 Maximum

[Gnarley Marley]

Good day to all!
Has anyone had any experience with the .357 Max in a lever action? I have two Marlin 1894C levers in .357 Mag and would like to convert one to Max. Does anyone know of a smith doing this conversion? I love these rifles and think the Max would be a heck of a round in a rifle.

[mescalero1]

Not enough room for the extra length.

[Gnarley Marley]

Room where? The loading gate? Rebarreling would take care of the chamber, unless there was enough meat in the existing chamber to ream it deeper.

[mescalero1]

The action is not long enough, you would not be able to eject a loaded round.
If you are serious try .357/.44 Bain & Davis.

[Ysabel Kid]

Just a wild (and probably crazy thought), but could you take a 336 action and alter it to shoot the .357 Maximum? I know this would be a lot more work, especially on the bore, but if OAL is a concern, that would seem to solve it...

[Buck Elliott]

Just a wild (and probably crazy thought), but could you take a 336 action and alter it to shoot the .357 Maximum? I know this would be a lot more work, especially on the bore, but if OAL is a concern, that would seem to solve it...

Would be easier if you could start with one already set up for the .375 Win. Or not...

A '94 Winchester in .357 Mag would be a better (more or less) starting place, unless you're really in LOVE with the clunky Marlins.

[AJMD429]

The action is not long enough, you would not be able to eject a loaded round.
If you are serious try .357/.44 Bain & Davis.

And if you don't mind the 336 long action, a .35 Remington will give you better ballistics.

I would like the short handy carbine size gun with .357 Max ballistics, so have thought about the .357/.44 Bain & Davis. About all you'd have to do is take a stock .44 Mag 1894, and re-barrel it.

Here's a Puma done that way - http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... hilit=Bain - seems like a Marlin would work too.

[Buck Elliott]

IOW, there are logical, real-world, reasons the .357 Max is not already available in a levergun...

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

SAAMI specs list the maximum pressure for the .357 Maximum at 48,000 c.u.p. That's pushing it even for a 336 action even with less bolt thrust.
A 92 would handle it but the action is too short. As mentioned the .357/.44 Bain & Davis in a 92 would be the way to go.

[Hobie]

Again?

Do a search, this has been hashed over, done and regretted. .357 B&D is the way to go, hence the .357 B&D topic (finally!).

[AJMD429]

Again?

Do a search, this has been hashed over, done and regretted. .357 B&D is the way to go, hence the .357 B&D topic (finally!).

Maybe it outta be a 'sticky' topic.

There's one thing for sure, with it being one of the most frequently mentioned topics aside from getting a 'more reliable' .454 Casull carbine or doing same with a .500 S&W, you'd sure think one of the gun companies would be jumping on it by now. Maybe the latter two would require major re-engineering, but I'd think in about 24 hours the Marlin (or Puma) folks could engineer and begin producing a .357/44 B&D.

Is it some patenting issue which prevents it?

[Thunder50]

How about the 445 supermag necked down in B&D configuration, and used in a 336? 357/44 B&D max.

[AJMD429]

The "357 Special Magnum" - http://ammoguide.com/?catid=247 could be made to feed more easily, but you'd compromise power and/or raise pressure, and as stated earlier, the limits are already pushed to the 'Maximum' - pun intended .

The other 'hot' round I'd like to see is the .327 Federal Magnum, just because .32-20 brass is kind of wimpy, and I don't like 'hot' loading some of a round for modern guns for which I also have very old guns; too much chance for tragic mistake.

[Gnarley Marley]

Now THERE is a cool idea!

[Tycer]

Again?

[Hobie]

Again?

Do a search, this has been hashed over, done and regretted. .357 B&D is the way to go, hence the .357 B&D topic (finally!).

Maybe it outta be a 'sticky' topic.

There's one thing for sure, with it being one of the most frequently mentioned topics aside from getting a 'more reliable' .454 Casull carbine or doing same with a .500 S&W, you'd sure think one of the gun companies would be jumping on it by now. Maybe the latter two would require major re-engineering, but I'd think in about 24 hours the Marlin (or Puma) folks could engineer and begin producing a .357/44 B&D.

Is it some patenting issue which prevents it?

I imagine it is the cost of development that prevents it.

The .357 Max has the same case head size as the .223 Rem (you don't count the rim). I don't think that the pressure is really a concern. As we've noted before, sometimes with the owner chiming in, one such conversion was unsatisfactory.

[TX Gun Runner]

There a lot of cartridges that equal or beats 357 max / 357-44B&D in a 92 already . The 38-40 and 44-40 loaded to a level 3 is super hard to beat them and design to work perfect in a 92 action with the bottle neck case .

[AJMD429]

There a lot of cartridges that equal or beats 357 max / 357-44B&D in a 92 already . The 38-40 and 44-40 loaded to a level 3 is super hard to beat them and design to work perfect in a 92 action with the bottle neck case .

I think the reason some of us desire a .357 higher power round (vs. the .357 Mag) is that we want to be able to use our stock of .357-358 bullets, rather than stock yet another diameter bullet, sizer, etc., and ideally it would be nice if it were just a longer .357 Mag so we could have 'upwards compatability'.

You are right, though, in a modern gun those "old" bottleneck rounds can surely sing and sizzle...

[sore shoulder]

Again?
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Exactly what I was thinking, and I thought of you at the same time. What, about once every year or two years?

Sooner or later technology will catch up to the point they will use spacial distortion to get it to work.

[pokey]

Again?

i like that beating a dead horse thing, neato.